Sunday, June 21, 2015

Meeting with our religious friends

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Welcome to our blog, Religious Reconciliation Doc
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Some religious leaders have meeting themselves to exchange their ideas and be able to understand each other better on religious grounds.
People sometimes have meeting to discuss various issues that is on their minds, whether these issues that they will talk about are religious or not, it all depends for what reason the meeting is being held.
 

Meeting with our religious friends

As we have promised at the end of our last post, we were going to meet with some of our religious friends and then we would continue to talk about what we talked about at the meeting. So, the other day the meeting that I have organized took place. So, I have met our friends and talked about the religious subjects that we have been talking about above, I have to say that on certain religious aspect they seem to go past my own ways of dealing with the situation, at least some of their speeches seemed to point that way, so, let us hear what Mark had to say first.
Mark speech in a nutshell,
If we want to find hidden meanings in the Bible and see why the Bible has been written the way it has been written, and also we understand the Bible the way we have been taught to understand it, then, we have really to start from the very beginning and use our logic reasoning minds to see if what we have been taught stands up to logic human reasoning; therefore, if and when it does stand up to our logic human reasoning as we believed it would, we have to try to understand what were the reasons, and then we can decide how to proceed.
So, let me tell you how I see these religious things: In my opinion I feel that in those times when the bible was written the way the Bible was written, it would have made sense to the believer of those times; you see people have always needed religions and to believe in a God that could be able to protect them from what they themselves would not be able to protect themselves, so, most civilizations had their own beliefs and gods that would help them somehow, and this can be seen from the various religions that exist today, if we are able to read between the lines.
Anyhow, in those times it happened that the Israelite needed a God to help them, so they looked at what their forbear already believed in and came up with this idea; they needed a God that was going to be superior to the other existing gods of those times, after all the Israelite needed this God to free them from the Egyptian, so Moses their leader provided just that God when he went on Mount Sinai and met Yahweh (God) as a burning bush, from there we know the rest of the Jews story, the story that for thousands of years has gone on and has become the largest religion in the world; this religion was started with Moses on Mount Sinai, and now, even though the old Israelite religion has changed a bit in various way depending to which religion one belongs, it has taken over most of the religious world.
Here I would like to point out that this religion has done a lot, and has guided lots of people in a meaningful way and it has lasted until today in various forms, I have said it has lasted until today because we don’t know what is going to happen in the future. Because as you all know today there are some people that do not need religions anymore, since time have changed and that feeling of danger from the unknown is not constantly present as it was in the past. So, some people like the atheists feel safe and feel that they can survive by themselves, so, they would like to see religions disappear, and who knows it might even happen in the far away future, we can never know.
Now let me say how I see religions today: Today we have to view religions in two different ways; the negative part of religion exists because some of the Muslim religions are becoming terrorists, these would be religious terrorist groups are a real threat to everybody including religions themselves, so we have to hope that somehow they will end soon, before something really bad happens on a large scale.
However, I have to say that my personal views are that most people still need religions just the way they are today, you see; we have always needed religions even if the atheists believe that we do not need them now? But, really how could we just let religions disappear? I believe that it could not and would never happen.
We need to look at today religious set up as a way of life that has been proven for centuries to work well with people; therefore people could not and would not accept any religious changes easily. If we can work out what can be done to change some religious beliefs without upsetting the whole system, then maybe we would be able to move to the next religious system, which very likely is inevitable: I am saying it is inevitable because everything changes with time and also religions will change; one has to look in the past to see that two thousand years ago people had different religions. I suppose I can say many other things about religions, but I suppose I have to let our other friends have a say if they so wish, so, that is all from me for the time being.
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Our views and more speeches

When Mark stopped talking; I, Gino and another two of our friends that were interested in these religious talks said that we understood what he had said. But at the same time I and perhaps Gino thought that really there was a need to say more, in order to have some idea where we were going to go, if we wanted to find a new religious way. There and then we knew that Mark did not go far enough to say that we needed a sort of religious review. So I asked Gino to say something himself, very well knowing that sometimes Gino is very crafty in his ideas.
Now before I write down what Gino had to say, I want to inform our readers that in this religious writings, we will try to keep speakers to a minimum, so, I, Mark and Gino will usually speak for all our friends that are interested in these religious talks, I believe that it could be easier for everybody to understand what is going on.
Gino speech
I know that our friend Mark has said many wise things that make sense, but what he said stops short of giving us a solution about reviewing the Bible and any other religious books, indeed it is hard for any of us to find a solution for these religious problems, therefore I believe that a straight way cannot be found, so, we may have to find another way around that might not upset religious people and at the same time suggests something about what is happening, or what may be going to happen in the future to religions, because of these present situations about the atheists and also the extremist groups, as Mark has pointed out. So, the only thing that I can suggest is that we can indeed review the Bible interpretation, but we have to be very careful, and therefore make sure that everything is written in such a way that is all seen as a suggestion of the possible present situation. It needs to be written mostly in a conditional way with plenty of ifs and maybes, so that the readers can make their own minds up as they go along; we also need to remind the readers that what is being written are only suggestions, so only time will tell what is going to happen to religions in the future.
Well that is how I see this situation and what we might be able to do about it today; this is the main thing I wanted to say to you, now you can make up your own mind.
Gino stopped talking and we said, your idea sounds good perhaps we should indeed try to review the Bible and any other religious books soon when we meet again. After that we started to have some other friendly talks that are not important to mention here.
I believe that we have said enough in this article, so, see you in our next article about, Bible reviews are necessary, after all we also want to study all sorts of religions.
May God help us to understand this religious situation?
May God bless us all?

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Meeting with our religious friends
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Friday, June 5, 2015

Religious writing views

WELCOME TO OUR RELIGIOUS RECONCILIATION DOC; YOU ARE INVITED TO BROWSE AND TO TAKE PART IF YOU WANT. IF YOU FIND SOMETHING PERSONALLY INTERESTING LET US KNOW. just a short comment will do if you do not have much time.
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Welcome to our blog, Religious Reconciliation Doc
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Religious writing views

The Bible is the most read religious book in the entire world, even though it starts with with Genesis and the creation, in reality it starts with Moses, since Moses is supposed to have been the write that started writing it.  


Moses one day went on Mount Sinai, and Moses saw God as a burning bush, when Moses asked the burning bush who was he? God replied Yahweh, and since then Yahweh has been the God of the Israelite.





Religious writing views

These are other religious writing activities and views
These religious posts are being written to describe a new way of religious beliefs, which could help to improve religious cooperation of the existing religions, it could also help by making religions more acceptable to the atheists as well; this could be achieved because we believe that God might be different to the God described in the Bible, and for this reason we have formulated a new sort of theory, therefore now we would like to find a way on how to describe this new living God, who or which could just be about anything that is capable to bears and distribute the existing life energy of the universe. Therefore now we are looking for ways how to explain what we have said; but above all we would like to take our readers step by step to see how we arrived at this conclusion, so this entire part two of Prayers and discussions has been written to show you how we arrived at this conclusion and the reasons why we are doing this.
Now, apart what we have written above, we have also written and republished or edited many others religious hubs, we have had some friendly discussions with our friends about religions, and from these discussions and other point of views we have come to the conclusion that for religions to make sense in a modern way, one should really start to review all existing religions and find if there are other meanings why religious books have been written the way they have been written, and why religious leaders interpret religions the way they do; we need also to say that they interpret religion in a way that will give them an advantage over the other people, but mostly it is the way that they have been taught.  
 At this point this question arise; if religious leaders interpret religion the way they do today, is it just because their forbears have taught them to believe in religions this way? Or is it not? So, the main aim in reconciliation part two of this religious forum will be to review those religious beliefs and meanings, in the hope that we would come up with some explanations that would help us understand the religious situation better, and in doing so, perhaps we would be able to put forward those hidden meanings that we find wrong in religions today, we should be able to do that without being scared of changing the accepted meanings of today religions.
In order to do what we have just said above, we need to start from the very beginning with all sorts of religions. Now, in this case, because my friends and I are Roman Catholic and therefore this is the religion that we know most, we should be looking at the Bible and what it teaches us first of all, if we are going to be able to achieve anything at all, after all Christianity, the Roman Catholic and the Bible are the religions that the non believers atheists attack most of the time, in the hope that they can prove that there is no God and therefore all religions are all human fantasy. We believe that because there is a large enough number of exaggerated interpretations of certain meanings in the Bible, the atheists is finding it easy to attack our religions, so, there is a need to change those interpretations, and in other words, we might need to modify religious interpretations in such a way that they become more acceptable to most of us, when we use common sense, because that is where the atheists attack religions.
Having said that I start thinking what might be the most important issue that needs to be looked at, and suddenly it comes to my mind the first thing that the atheists attack religious people, is about creation, as atheists do not believe that God created anything as said in the Bible; they believe that whatever exists today has been created just from natural forces, so, God has nothing to do with creation, because God and its creation is all a human invention. Now I want to say that we are not able to prove to the atheists beyond any doubts that God exists, so the next best thing that we can do is to adjust religious meanings in such a way that they might partly make sense to the atheists as well, and therefore minimize their attacks on plain religious people.
Having said that, what I would like to do next is that I would like to call on my religious friends and have a good talk about this religious subject, you know sometimes my friends have a very good understanding of the situation and their input is much appreciated, so let me organize a meeting, with the intention of talking about religions.
I believe that this post is already long enough, so will see you in our next post, Meeting with our religious friends. See you soon.

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Religious Reconciliation Doc
Religious writing views
IS TO BE CONTINUED;
Next time with; Meeting with our religious friends.       
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Other links from same author

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