Wednesday, December 18, 2013

John's Revelation speech

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 John's Revelation speech

This is what John had to say:
Dear friends you know already why I am here.
As you all know I have been following up a few religions for a while, just to find out whether to be religious and follow a religion is the right thing to do for myself and for any of us, and if it is, what is the best way to go about following a religion? Which one of these existing religions could be the right religion for me? You see I have asked myself many times these questions.
As you all know in this part of the world most religions are Christian in origin and they have sprung from the Bible in one way or another, so, I believe that following what is written in the Bible is the way to go, as most people seem to be happy to do that.
Therefore, after having studied a few religions I came to the conclusion that they are more or less the same; so, I dare say that perhaps the best thing for anybody is to stay with the religion your parents have thought you, but really it is up to you what you want to do.
Now, let me come to today’s’ religious task; Mark and Gino here have come to me and told me about what you (Frank) want to do as a religious believer, So I became concerned, and for this reason here I am about to tell you my concerns, so I am here to talk about these concerns of mine, in order to help you to make the right decision once you have heard what I have to say.
Recently in a religious group we had a discussion on Revelation, a few members were not happy about these great tribulations and other things expressed in Revelation, so they were looking for another way out that would be less demanding on humanity.
To cut a long story short one of the members who was there pointed out that we could do nothing about it, as the Bible itself says that it can’t be changed; so this bloke took the Bible and read the very end of Revelation which says this; and I quote from the Bible as he did.
The end of the Bible
Here John took his Bible and read.
22-16- I Jesus, have sent my angel to make these revelations to you for the sake of the churches. I am of David’s line, the root of David and the bright star of the morning.
17- The Spirit and the Bride say, ‘Come’. Let everyone who listens answer, ‘Come’. Then let all who are thirsty come: all who want it may have the water of life, and have it free.
18- This is my solemn warning to all who hear the prophecies in this book: if anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him every plague mentioned in the book;
19- if anyone cuts anything out of the prophecies in this book, God will cut off his share of the tree of life and of the holy city, which are described in the book.
20- The one who guaranties these revelations repeats his promise: I shall indeed be with you soon. Amen; come, Lord Jesus.
21- May the grace of the Lord Jesus be with you all. Amen.
(End of quote from Bible)
This is how, The Jerusalem Bible, ends.
Now, let me go back to the meeting with Mark, Gino and John:
When John closed the Bible and said:
Now you can see for yourself why I was much concerned and wanted to let you know this, so that you know how I see these religious things.
Therefore, know that I have said what I wanted to say I feel better already, because the decision is yours if you want to go ahead and do what you want to do, or hear and heed the warning in the Bible and stop just like everybody else has stopped for about 2000 years. What do you say now?
I know, ‘I said to John’, your warning from the Bible sounds threatening indeed, so, I will take it into consideration and thanks for the advice you gave us.

Discussing Revelation and John's reading

It looks like now that before I do anything we will have to learn a lot more about this warning you gave us and I will not rush into anything: but anyhow let me talk it over with friends Mark and Gino here just to see what they think about it.
Then I turned to Gino and Mark and asked them: What do you think about John’s Bible warning? I would like to hear your opinion on this subject, if you have anything to say you can say it now.
Mark’s reply:
Well, what John has brought up sounds very serious to me, and I dare say that perhaps you Frank have to moderate most of your religious ideology, so that it does not change anything that is said in the Bible, in another way whatever you are going to say it should not contests the Bible scriptures; look Frank a lot of generations have gone past and they all have accepted the bible just the way it is, so I don’t know why you see it in a different way.
Therefore, I would like to suggest that we study first the Bible a bit longer before you do anything about it; what do you say to my request? Would you agree to study the Bible with us for a while yet before you make any decision?
We all said yes to Mark’s questions saying, we agree with you that we need to study more before we do anything.
Then I added, but I would like to know also what Gino personally thinks about John’s warning and everything else? So, Gino tell us what you think about this present discussion? I am sure that you have your own way of seeing these religious things.
Gino’s reply:
Well, I agree with Mark that we should really study the situation before we do anything; I want also to say that I was partly surprised about the way of John’s interpretation of the Bible, I think that there may be another meaning to this sinister warning. What makes me think this is the way which Jesus’ angel tells the writer what to write; and it is also the way it is said, I have always believed that Jesus was a very amicable person: but here his message through the angel sounds very harsh and he issues threatening warnings, he seems completely changed; So I say that there are several meanings in those writings, and I would say that we should investigate and proceed with caution.
Me to Gino- Gino! What do you mean by proceed with caution?
Gino to me- What else can you do? You can’t rush things in a situation like this. You may have to read the Bible once or twice more from the beginning until the very end; or at least all the new Testament to find the meaning of what has been said, and then and only then, you may be in a position to decide what to do.
Mark said- Frank, I believe Gino is right and we should not rush things, take your time man! There is plenty of time to do what you want to do.
Then if it is God’s will that you have to write these religious writings, God will make sure that you will find enough time and also the right way how to do it?
Now, since we have already spent a great deal of time on this religious task, I suggest that we adjourn the meeting for another time. So, let us enjoy ourselves the usual way before we have to depart our own way, okay?
Okay I said.

Anyhow we have already said enough in this post, so see you in our next post about the rest of our discussions. See you soon.
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