Wednesday, September 29, 2021

The Israelite exodus from Egypt.

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The Bible says that Moses one day went up Mound Sinai, where he met God in the form of a burning bush, God told Moses to go back to Egypt and tell the Pharaoh to free the Israelite from slavery. Moses thought that this was not a good idea, since he had been banned from Egypt, so he asked God, who should I say has send me, God replied, Yahweh. 

Exodus and the Mosaic Laws 

Welcome to our article, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws 

May God guide and help me to say the right things?  

Dear readers, because there are several religions in the world, we need to learn about them, before we can say what we think about them. So, today we are looking at religious event that have shaped western religion. So, we want to review these events to refresh our memories, then in the future compare them to other religions, if we need to. In this article we will talk about, Israel exodus from Egypt, which is an important event as written in the Bible.

In the Old Testament according to the Bible, Moses was to be killed from the Egyptians when he was born, but his mother abandoned him on the river Nile hoping for a miracle, and the miracle happened because he was saved from the river Nile from an Egyptian princess that had no children, he grew and learned in the Egyptian court the Egyptian’s ways.

One day he was attracted to his people, and he learned that he was an Israelite and not an Egyptian. Anyhow, he did something bad and the Egyptian Pharaoh banned him from Egypt into the Sinai desert. So, he went in the desert thinking about his people and walking towards Mount Sinai, near Mount Sinai he met some shepherd and stopped with them. Anyhow, he did not know that he had been selected by God to be the Hebrews leader that would lead the Hebrews back to the Promised Land, which God had given to Abraham their forbear. 

One day Moses felt the need to go up Mount Sinai to investigate what was there, since he was seeing signs, so, he went up Mount Sinai and saw a burning bush, but this burning bush was different from a normal burning bush, because while it was burning it did not burn out, a voice from this burning bush told Moses; stop where you are and take your shoes off you are on sacred land; this was the voice of God who appeared in the form of a burning bush and spoke to Moses; God said that he had heard the children of Israel laments and prayers to him, so, he wanted to help them to be free from the Egyptian bondage.

Now, because the Israelites were praying to the God of Abraham, God ordered Moses to go back to Egypt to free his people from the Pharaoh slavery. Moses was not sure this was a good idea since he had been banned from Egypt. So, Moses asked God, who I should say has sent me to the children of Israel and to the Pharaoh. God said, I am who I am, and tell the children of Israel and say that Yahweh the God of your Father has sent me. So, Moses went back to Egypt and after several arguments with the Pharaoh and divine intervention from Yahweh God, in the end Moses finally succeeded to lead his Hebrew people out of Egypt.

As they left Egypt, the Pharaoh tried once more to stop them with his army. But Yahweh God helped the Israelite cross the Red Sea as if it was dry land, and then the water of the Red Sea came back and drowned the Pharaoh army that was trying to stop them leaving Egypt. This is what is written in the Bible.

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On their way back to the Promised Land. 

On their way back to the Promised Land, the Israelite went near Mount Sinai, since Yahweh God wanted Moses to go back to him up there, and Moses went again up Mount Sinai, where he met God again and God gave Moses the Ten Commandments.

Now, while Moses was on Mount Sinai waiting for God to give him the Ten Commandments, he stayed up there for a long time. So, the people that had left Egypt to go to the Promised Land started to have different opinions; they wanted a god like the Egyptians, so, they made up a golden statue of a bull, this made Yahweh resentful; because he wanted the people of Israel to believe only in him, as we can see from the first three commandments that he gave Moses.

Of course, Yahweh God punished them for this event. But this event brings doubts in our minds, so, we must ask, why the people of Israel did this, there is something wrong here, because if they had seen what we are being told they saw; then anyone that had witnessed those events could not doubt Yahweh power for a moment. Therefore, there is something wrong in this Bible story.

During the time that the Israelites were travelling in the desert to reach the Promised Land, is said that Moses spoke with God several times. From these meetings with God, and from those happenings that took place during this voyage from Egypt to the Promised Land, Moses and his brother Aaron wrote and laid down the first part of the Mosaic Laws, that would guide the Hebrews from there on. During this period Yahweh gave Moses many laws the Hebrew were divided in tribes and these formed the 12 tribes of Israel, which are the families of the 12 children of Jacob also called Israel; because Israel is the name that Yahweh God gave Jacob, in a prior event that happened when Jacob was alive, God said to Jacob from now on you are Israel. That is how Jacob is known as Israel. 

Now we are going to talk about the tribes of Israel. Anyhow, we believe that what took place in the Sinai desert including the Mosaic Laws; it was something that at that time and place needed to be done the way it was done. 

I believe that Moses and his brother Aaron thought that it was necessary to separate the tribes, than God instructing them to do it in many details, since they were the leaders of the Israelite and had to control the people; we need also to say that whether there was Yahweh God that was talking to Moses every time is doubtful, if it was so, then the rest of the people must have known, and would follow their instructions blindly. 

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 The 12 tribes if Israel

The Israelites were divided in 12 tribes one for each family of the children of Jacob, (Israel).

The 12 children of Israel were: Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Issachar, Benjamin, Zebulon, Joseph, Dan, Asher, Naphtali, and Gad; these were the names of the 12 children of Israel, and every one of them had their own family and became one tribe. Thus, was Yahweh order through Moses. So, the 12 tribes of Israel were independent of each other; but they had to follow God’s order that went through Moses and his brother Aaron of the house of Levi.

The Bible says that God spoke with Moses many times saying to Moses, go and tell the house of Jacob what they had to do. Now through this talking, new laws and ways of living were described to the sons of Israel, this is how the Mosaic Laws were formed. Quoting example from the Bible:

Quote 1: Leviticus 18;

Yahweh spoke to Moses; he said:

‘Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them:

“I am Yahweh your God. You must not behave as they do in Egypt where once you lived; you must not behave as they do in Canaan where I am taking you. You must not follow their laws. You must follow my customs and keep my laws; by them you must lead your life.”

Quote 2: Leviticus 19;

Yahweh spoke to Moses; he said:

‘Speak to the whole community of the sons of Israel and say to them:

“Be holy, for I, Yahweh your God, am holy.

Each of you must respect his father and mother.

And you must keep my Sabbaths; I am Yahweh your God.

Do not turn to idols and cast no gods of metal. I am Yahweh your God.

(Anyhow, I am using these quotes as examples in Leviticus between Moses and God).

As I have said God was speaking to Moses many times in Exodus and Leviticus, but these talks become doubtful, because if these meetings with God had taken place, then the Israelites would have been more God conscious of Yahweh their God.

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The Bible has doubtful possibilities written in it. 

In the Bible there are some doubtful possibilities written

When we read the Bible, there are doubtful things written in it. In Leviticus Moses and his brother Aaron, spoke with God many times, as if they were normal happenings. But what I cannot understand is this: if Moses was speaking with God many times, as the Bible says, it follows that the Israelites should have known that, and they should have followed whatever commands were given to them.

But the Israelite had always doubts in their minds; since they were arguing about the reasons why they were in the desert living a hard life, as if they had not seen what had happened around them.

What we want to say here is this; we believe that the Israelite did not see or hear God, otherwise they would have had no doubts about God or Moses. For this reason, what has been written in the Bible about God talking to Moses, might not have taken place as much as they claim. So, everything was added later when the Bible was written and re-written.

This makes me believe that religions are written according to the times when they are written, because we cannot explain it, in any other way. So, if today we want to re-write religions, we must write them according to our times.

Anyhow, in our next article, we will continue to talk about the Bible, because the Bible was also the Israelite history book, in ancient times history and religion were written together, because whatever happened was thought to be religious, so, in our next article we will be talking about,  The Bible is The Hebrew History

To see more click on this link, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws

May God bless us all.

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Thursday, September 2, 2021

The creation of man discussions.

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The Bible says that God created Adam from plain dirt in his own image. If we believe everything what the Bible says, then God looks like a man, following this Bible description, this is how Michelangelo painted Adam in one of his paintings. Using my imagination, I believe that the index finger of the hand of God touching Adams hand, is meant to give Adam life.   

In this second photo we continue to  talk about Adam and Eva at the time of creation. They are in the garden of Eden, where Eva is about to take one of the fruit from the tree of knowledge. But God had forbidden them to eat from this tree, so, when they did they did disobey God and God banned them from the garden of Eden.   
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Welcome to our article, Religion about man creation

Religious discussions about the creation of man. 

May God guide and help me to say the right things?

Dear readers, what we are writing here are religious discussions that we have with other people, or the way we imagine ourselves how things could be. And these articles are a study of religions and how they serve humanity.

As we have said, there are reasons to believe that religions could be man-made; in other words, they are an invention that mankind made a long time ago. Today we want to discuss about the creation of mankind, since our friends Gino and Peter have expressed their doubts, about God being able to create man from plain dirt. 

So, I must wait for the opportunity to talk about religions to my friends, because when I am talking to my friends, at least I believe that what I write is brand new, so, it is harder for Hub pages to find that my articles have duplicate content, which is so frustrating; when you know that you have written that article for the first time. So, let us talk about it.

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About hub pages’ creation of man. 

Anyhow, you have to forgive me for a moment, if I talk about Hub Pages instead of the creation of man. You see, we wanted to continue writing about the creation of man, and we did, only to be told that our article has duplicate content, so, I am forced to talk about Hub pages’ duplicate content

Whoever has written articles in Hub pages knows, that soon or later they may find that their articles have been marked as having duplicate content. I believe that nothing in the writing world is brand new, because first we have to learn it from somewhere else, once we have made up our mind what is right and what is not right, we write it down our own way mixing the subject we have learned, therefore, what we write have got to have duplicate content in it, it cannot be avoided.

In my case of writing religious articles is even worse, because religious discussions tent to say the same things again, it is only natural that they do this. You see, if you have gone to mass at the Roman Catholic Church, I am sure that you have noted that the mass is the same every time, even the sermons have their yearly cycle, so, religion is a repetitive subject where it is hard to avoid repetitions. 

Anyhow, this does not mean that religious articles can be allowed to have duplicate content, I want only to point it out how hard it is to avoid it. I have told my friends what happens in Hub pages about duplicate content and all they came up with was; you have to try harder to avoid that, perhaps you can quote what we say, so that even if we are saying the same things, it is not you saying it. 

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Some friendly religious talks

This has happened to me the other day, when Mark, Gino and Peter were having this conversation in my presence and Mark was saying to Gino.

You said to Frank that God cannot make man from dirt because that would be hard for God to do. Now, what you have said makes me wonder whether you can tell us more about the way that you see the creation of man, and about other creations that happen in the Bible.

Gino.

No, Mark I don’t have much to say about the Bible creation, except that if you think about it ,there are things that don’t make sense the way they have been written in the Bible, because if we use our logic reasoning mind, they are impossible to achieve even for a real God, provided there is a God. Therefore, that is the reason that I believe the Jews made up their God so powerful that could make living people from plain dirt.

You see, I believe that the Jews invented their own powerful God, their own ways and for their own needs and they did it in such a way that this God was more powerful of any other God, since their God could even make man from plain dirt. I hope you see what I mean. Anyhow, just to make myself clear, I will give you another example; these days the Muslims believe that their God Allah, will reward them in paradise, if they kill any infidel, how low can their God be, that will reward them, if they destroy another life, when life itself can be said that it is part of God? But the     Muslims want to believe their God will reward them, and so be it. 

Mark.

Of course, I see what you are saying Gino! But what you are saying opens a new way of thinking, if we are willing to follow your interpretation of the Bible. You see, if we admit that man was not created by God from dirt, then also other creations are not true, or they are partly true, therefore, we must discuss it many times before we can reach a conclusion, it also opens the whole Bible to discussions, as the Bible may not be the word of God, or even inspired by God, as Frank said in one of his articles; Religions are man-made, perhaps we have to agree with Frank description of religions, don’t you agree?

Gino.

Of course, I agree with Frank’s descriptions, because I am trying to say the same thing.

Here Peter comes in saying.

Look I and Gino agree that man cannot be made from plain dirt, even if God tries to make him; thus, the whole thing cannot be true as our own human understanding tells us. Now, if we take away that God is omnipotent and can do anything, which is how the Jews wanted God to be, then, God must follow the physical laws that exist in the universe; then the possibilities of God making man from dirt, is almost nil and therefore there has got to be another way. You see, that is the reason why we said what we have said in the first place, about the Jews inventing their own God, just the way they needed God.

Mark.

I understand what you two are saying, I was worried that you two had become atheists, like our friend John was saying the other day, when he heard what you said. Perhaps as your beliefs stand, you may be agnostic rather than atheists.

Frank (me):

What I heard from your religious talks today, can help me write how some people see religions today; it opens also the way for religious discussions, where I can learn something else about religious views. 

Anyhow, I have made up my mind that I must find my own way, how to research for other religious articles, since I cannot rely on my friends too much for writing my articles. Anyhow, I start seeing God in a different way, so, I believe that we need to modify religions. Meanwhile we are continuing our religious articles, so, see you in our next article, where we are going to write about the Bible, Exodus and the Mosaic Laws. See you there. 

To see more click on this link, Religion about man creation

May God bless us all.

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