Friday, December 18, 2009

Religious Reconciliation Doc, Chapter 2

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Chapter 2 of Prayers of Reconciliation


Angles of the realm of glory,
You tell for ever the eternal story,
You sing about the Creator glory,
You tell the wonders of God’s creation.
After a very long time and reflections about this God sent task that seems to be within me all the time and never lets me go; I have come to the conclusion that perhaps I could never find peace within myself unless I fulfill my desire to write about these religious beliefs, so, I have decided to talk to my friends again, in the hope that they now may have come to see my task in a more favorable way.
So I called them to let them know that I would like to see them again on this religious subject whenever they have spare time, I have been waiting for them for a while now, while I have been waiting I thought that it could be a good thing to write down the reasons why I started to write these religious writings.
Then I started to think that one of the reasons was/is, that I see God somehow different from everybody else, now that I have said it, I need to explain what I think God may be like, in the hope that the explaining of this article may help me to explain myself better to my reader and to friends and win their consent.
I suppose you may be asking yourself why this has happened to me, so, let me first inform you my dear readers the reason why I started to write these religious writings; well it was for my own personal reasons which I will explain to you better later on, I have started to write these religious writings as my personal prayer to Our Father God Most High, therefore, these writings are being written as my personal prayers to God Most High, which I pray from the bottom of my heart, my soul and my mind, I pray every day of my life, while I am happy and while I am sad and distressed. Therefore within these writings here will be lots of prayers: In some of these prayers I’ll be praying God for forgiveness in order to become purified, and therefore become worthy to become God’s servant and therefore to write God’s things; and then again in another prayer I’ll be invoking help from God so that I would be able to write my religious writings the proper way, and in some prayers I will be asking God to protect me from the forces of evil; because the force of evil may try to take me away from God’s life force, therefore it is important for me to beware the forces of evil and pray God to help me.
So, just now I am praying God to send me an angel from the realm of glory, who would suggest me how to write something about God’s Creation and the Creator Glory, so that I could be inspired and be able to continue to write my religious writings.
This is what came to my mind; I have to define who is God and what God is like and why we need religion and God?
I have to stop writing now, because I can hear somebody at the door, I can hear the voices of my friends, so they are here now.

Third Meeting
After greeting and all other niceties that occur every time good friends meet, I Mark and Gino made ourselves comfortable and started to talk about the agenda of the meeting, and I asked them;
So, you have come just the two of you because any other friend does not want to take part in these religious talks?
What is the matter with them?
Don’t they see that we are talking only and nothing is happening?
Anyhow that does not matter; perhaps we are better off without them if they worry too much about changing religious things.
Now tell me, what do people said when you have talked to them about God and religion lately?
Here Mark was ready to answer me; and this is what he said:

Mark reply
Well, most of them are not interested about talking religious things, and those who are have expressed themselves in very different ways:
(1) Some people believe in God and religion just the way it is, this portion of people don’t want any change in religion, so they are happy to stay with the ways religions are nowadays. It is no use to talk to them unless you agree fully with their religious beliefs.

(2) There is a portion of people that have doubts about nowadays religions, some of which don’t feel sure whether what is being thought about religion is all true, so, they are believers but with a little doubt in their mind and heart. You can talk to this group of people but they are not much help, if you want to find new ideas.
(2b) Right in the middle there is this large group of people, which believe in God and religions only up to a point, these people usually are full of all sorts of questions, as they would like to know more, in the hope that they can return to religion fully.
(2c) The extreme in this middle group is formed by those who believe very little in religion as it is today, so, they are asking too many questions themselves about religions, they are agnostic as they believe and at the same time don’t believe, one does not know what to do with this group, and yet they are the most interesting ones. That is all there is in this middle group.

(3) This last group I call the danger group for religious beliefs, they are the atheist, they don’t believe in God and religions, so, for them it would be better if religions did not exist. They are usually very intelligent and have a good job, so for them there are no worries in life, therefore, they don’t see the need of god and religion. Therefore, this well to do group starts putting forwards all sort of stories in order to blame religion for some of the bad things they have done in the past, but they don’t see that mankind have only to blame themselves, because no religion tells its believers to directly kill. Then there is also the fact that a few in this group are poor uneducated people and they don’t believe in God just to protest their bad luck, as they are not happy about what the world is giving them, so, they see the need to believe only in themselves; now, because of this belief they may become the worst of mankind, as they don’t have any respect for humanity, and also they don’t have a God or religion or any other sort of inbuilt restrain within them. I could say more but I think it is better that I stop here and see what you do think about it all. I only would like to add that what I have learned from all this enquiries; and I want you to remember how I see religion now, as this may well be important from now on, if we are talking religious things;
Remember that;
Religion and God is hope for those who need hope most.

Very well said Mark! I said, and so did Gino at the same time.

Then I turned to Gino, and said: Now that we have heard what mark had to say, what do you think of his speech? And what have you found out for yourself, it is your turn to speak.

Gino speech:
I have to say that Mark and I agree on most of these religious things, so there is no point in repeating them, I only would like to say a bit more about the last group of people who we call the atheists, as they need to be noted about their ways of thinking and speeches, any believer should avoid to talk to any of them about religious matters, because soon or later they are inclined to ridicule your religious beliefs, they are usually good intelligent people, so it is hard for any religious people to defend themselves from this group.
They attack believers usually by asking proof of any religious matter, so Mark is right when he calls them the danger group of religious beliefs. We really need to think hard how to defend ourselves from this group, Let me show you a few examples about what they usually talk to get the believers off guard.

You believers say that God is Omnipotent, now if God is omnipotent then god should be capable to do anything at all no matter how difficult the task is.
Now, there are many things in the world that need to be fixed, why your god does not fix them? We say that your God most likely does not exist; or he is definitely not omnipotent, or he is not willing to fix anything, so your god is not your fatherly benevolent god that you say he is. Therefore your religious beliefs are flawed.
We say that we are right to assume that there is no God and religions are there only to control people, now since religions fight with each others, it would have been better if religions did not exist.

This sort of reasoning goes on with many gods attributes and they challenge the believers to give proof of the existence of God and its attributes. So it is hard for any believers to give proof of God and its attributes. How can any believers give proof about God?
And god omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence and many other God attributes?
For the atheists God and religion is better it does not exist.
What can one do to change their attitude I don’t know?
I hope I have explained myself clear enough in this difficult report.

Your speech is clear enough for me I said; then I turned to Mark and asked: what do you think of Gino speech mark? His speech is very clear for me too; in fact it is just about what I would have liked to say myself. But now, where do we go from here I don’t Know?
O.K. I suppose I need to say something myself now.

And this is what I said: Mark and Gino, now that you have seen for yourselves what religious people think and what atheist think, I am sure that you might start thinking more like me, which is that something needs to be done to help religions find a way of complete peaceful existence.
To achieve complete peaceful existence is not easy the way religions are today, therefore, I believe that religions need to be reviewed and bought in line with the present times; but nobody wants to listen to my approach, so there is not much that one can do presently; but one can always start thinking about the possibilities, if one day something can be done to solve this religious problem.
The only way that this can be achieved is to come up with a theory, which allows the existence of religions as they are; but at the same time finds a way and shows it clearly to the people that all religions are a link of the same chain. I know this is not as simple as it sounds, but if we keep looking we will find the way.
I have found that there was a philosopher called, Baruch Spinoza, 1632-1677 who believed that it is more likely that God may not be just the way that religions want you to believe nowadays; but it could be that God was more like Mother Nature therefore it is more likely that we all are part of God and God is everything or at least every living thing in existence.
Now if God could not be exactly how we believe god is like; then it may well be that God is more like what Spinoza believed god was like, this may very well be the link that we need to find in order to link all existing religions together.
Then if we think a bit like Spinoza and add to knowledge which we have today, we might be able to describe a god which could co-exist with all religions together.
So, let us put out minds together and see if we can describe this God for all; which we could call God-Most-High.
My friends Mark and Gino said; yes let us make a list of how god could be; just to see if we are able to find a way to Spinoza thinking about, what is God?
Well I said; a while ago I was thinking this same thing, so I have already written something about, what is God? So here is what I wrote:


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Thursday, December 10, 2009

Vatican music and hymns


Before I write this blog I need to explain to the readers that all religions would be welcomed to have their say in the blog; even though what is being written here now is really a Roman Catholic blog.
Since by posting a blog that blog is available to the whole world, I believe that I have to explain to the public what is being written here, so that non Roman Catholic or non Christian religions may have some understanding of this beliefs.
This blog is about the virgin Mary; Now to give the public the most simple explanation is this: Mary is the mother of Jesus, Jesus Christ is the only human being that may indeed have come straight from the life-force of the living God of the universe, so through Jesus Mary becomes the link that links humanity to God.
To understand the whole concept in a human way is this: there is no human being on earth that has never asked help from their mothers, so all humanity has this unbreakable link to mothers, and therefore, it follows that whenever one needs help the word mother is the first to come to mind, as mothers are more approachable than anybody else, don't you agree?
Within this post hereunder there are links of music and hymns dedicated to the virgin Mary; enjoy the music from the Vatican.

No one can deny their own mother and the virgin Mary represents the mother for all of us.

Click on the links below and enjoy Music and Hymns from the Vatican, where even the pope takes part.””

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Wednesday, December 2, 2009

Prayers of Reconciliation 2


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This is the continuation of previous posts including the first meeting:

Angles of the realm of glory,
You tell for ever the eternal story,
You sing about the Creator glory,
You tell the wonders of God’s creation.

We all sing glory to God Most High.
God’s heavenly angles say in the sky.
They sing for God their lullabies.
They sing glory to God Most High.
Glo-o-o-o-o o-o-o-o-o o-o-o-o-o o-o-ria
In ex-cel-sis De----------o.


Two weeks after the first meeting we had another meeting, I was hoping that by now my friends Mark and Gino would bring good news, and that they would be more helpful by accepting my way of thinking, but it was not going to be my way. In fact I wanted to submit my prayer above, but I didn’t have the chance, therefore I still don’t know whether they will approve it or not, but anyhow let us go back to the meeting.
They came together with another friend called John, but as soon as they saw me they grew serious and they didn’t seem to be their usual self, as they are usually happy when we meet together, so, I guessed that I had given them a burden which at the present time seemed to upset them a bit.
So I asked them; what’s the matter my friends? Why aren’t your usual self happy? You seem very grave to me is there anything that is upsetting you my friends?
No, nothing is upsetting us accept the news that we are bringing you, (they said) which is not exactly what you would like to hear, you see we have been talking to a few people about what you would like to do, we did not tell them about your supernatural encounter, as we agreed with you that we should not talk about it with outsiders, so, we talked only about what you have intention to do, like reviewing the Bible or something of that sort, the outcome of these talks left us concerned as there is no way to know what people think, so now we are even more concerned than when we started asking those questions, so, we are here to show you what we mean.

Mark, Gino and their Friend John seemed a bit upset about what they were still going to say to me, so, I tried to put them at ease.
Well, (I said) I thought that this outcome was likely to happen, because people usually don’t like to think for themselves difficult matters and religion is perhaps the most difficult of them all, so people keep doing and believing what they have been thought to do and believe, as this is for them the easy way out, but really I believe that for sure there is another unexplored way and I would like to find it out.
Tell me a bit more about this exploration of yours: Did most people give you negative comments about what I would like to do? Or, did they also have some positive comments? If they did both what percentage were they?

Well, they seem to be about half of them, so 50% could be the right figure. But this is not all, because some of them that didn’t like your idea come on very strong, so we thought that it would be good for you to hear this first hand from our fried John, as John is one of them and really what he has been saying make sense to us.
Now if you agree we may hear what John has to say?
OK I said let John speak.
And this is what John said.

John’s speech
Dear friends you know already why I am here.
As you all know I have been following up a few religions for a while, just to find out whether to be religious is the right thing to do, and if it were the way to go, which one of these existing religions could be the right one for me?
As you all know in this part of the world most religions are Christian in origin and they have sprung from the Bible in one way or another.
After having studied them I came to the conclusion that they are more or less the same, so, I dare say that perhaps the best thing for anybody is to stay with the religion your parents have thought you, but really it is up to you what you want to do.

Now, let me come to today task; Mark and Gino here have come to me and told me about what Fran (me) wants to do and as a believer I am concerned about it, so I am here to talk about these concerns of mine, in order to help you to make the right decision.
Recently in a religious group we had a discussion on Revelation, a few members were not happy about these great tribulations and other things expressed in Revelation, so they were looking for another way out that would be less demanding on humanity.
To cut a long story short one of the members who was there pointed out that we could do nothing about it, as the Bible itself says that it can’t be changed; so he took the Bible and read the very end of Revelation which says this and I quote:
John took his Bible and read.

22-16- I Jesus, have sent my angel to make these revelations to you for the sake of the churches. I am of David’s line, the root of David and the bright star of the morning.
17- The Spirit and the Bride say, ‘Come’. Let everyone who listens answer, ‘Come’. Then let all who are thirsty come: all who want it may have the water of life, and have it free.
18- This is my solemn warning to all who hear the prophecies in this book: if anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him every plague mentioned in the book;
19- if anyone cuts anything out of the prophecies in this book, God will cut off his share of the tree of life and of the holy city, which are described in the book.
20- The one who guaranties these revelations repeats his promise: I shall indeed be with you soon. Amen; come, Lord Jesus.
21- May the grace of the Lord Jesus be with you all. Amen.

(End of quote from Bible)
This is how, The Jerusalem Bible, ends.

Now, let me go back to the meeting with Mark, Gino and John:
When John closed the Bible and said:

Now you can see for yourself why I was much concerned and wanted to let you know how I see these religious things.
Therefore, know that I have said what I wanted to say I feel better already, because the decision is yours if you want to go ahead and do what you want to do, or hear and heed the warning and stop just like everybody else has stopped for about 2000 years.

My answer to John:
I know, ‘I said to John’, your warning from the Bible sounds threatening indeed, so, I will take it into consideration and thanks for the advice you gave me.
It looks like now that before I do anything I will have to learn a lot more about this warning you gave me and I will not rush into anything: but anyhow let me talk it over with Mark and Gino here to see what they think about it.
Then I turned to Gino and Mark and asked them: What do you think about this Bible warning? I would like to hear your opinion on this subject now.

Mark’s reply:
Well, what John has brought up sounds very serious to me, and I dare say that perhaps you Fran have to moderate most of your ideology, so that it does not change anything that is said in the Bible, in a way that it contests the Bible scriptures; look Fran a lot of generations have gone past and they all have accepted the bible just the way it is, so I don’t know why you see it in a different way.
I would like to suggest that we study first the Bible a bit longer before you do anything about it; what do you say to my request? Would you agree to study the Bible with us for a while yet before you make any decision?

We all said yes to Mark’s questions saying, we agree with you that we need to study more before we do anything.
Then I added, but I would like to know also what Gino personally thinks about John’s warning and everything else? So, Gino tell us what you think about this present discussion? I am sure that you have your own way of seeing these religious things.

Gino’s reply:
Well, I agree with Mark that we should really study the situation before we do anything; I want also to say that I was partly surprised about the way of John’s interpretation of the Bible, I think that there may be another meaning to this sinister warning. What makes me think this is the way which Jesus’ angel tells the writer what to write; and it is also the way it is said, I have always believed that Jesus was a very amicable person: but here his message through the angel sounds very harsh and he issues threatening warnings, he seems completely changed; So I say that there are several meanings in those writings, and I would say that we should investigate and proceed with caution.

Me to Gino- Gino! What do you mean by proceed with caution?

Gino to me- What else can you do? You can’t rush things in a situation like this. You may have to read the Bible once or twice more from the beginning until the very end; or at least all the new Testament to find the meaning of what has been said, and then and only then, you may be in a position to decide what to do.

Mark said- Fran, I believe Gino is right and we should not rush things, take your time man! There is plenty of time to do what you want to do.
Then if it is God’s will that you have to write these religious writings, God will make sure that you will find enough time and also the right way how to do it?
Now, since we have already spent a great deal of time on this religious task, I suggest that we adjourn the meeting for another time. So, let us enjoy ourselves the usual way before we have to depart our own way, okay?

This is how our last meeting ended:
Today I am still wondering which way to go, so, to anyone who reads these writings I would appreciate very much if you comment on them.
Especially comments about how the Bible ends, since this could help me decide which way I should proceed?


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Monday, November 23, 2009

Prayers of Reconciliation

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This is the beginning of Prayers of Reconciliation, where I and my partners and friends will try to find an universal link that would connect all religions together to each other, it is not going to be easy to do that; but we will try anyhow. Follow these blogs and see what happens?


Angels of the realm of glory,
You tell for ever the eternal story,
You sing about the Creator glory,
You tell the wonders of God’s creation.

We all sing glory to God Most High.
God’s heavenly angels say in the sky.
They sing for God their lullabies.
They sing glory to God Most High.
Glo-o-o-o-o o-o-o-o-o o-o-o-o-o o-o-ria
In ex-cel-sis De----------o.

These religious writings have been started purposely the way above to attract the attention of the readers; so that, any reader can understand at a glace what they can find in the pages of these religious writings. They are the preamble of the religious writings, which are going to be written hereunder, and they show clearly that these writings will be talking about God our heavenly Father, and religion and lots of other heavenly things, and this is mostly what you will find written within the pages of these writings, since they mainly will speak about God and heaven and what’s there within.

I firmly believe that I am writing in God’s name, not only because of what I have heard and seen, but also because I believe that only the existing and active God life force can lead anyone like me to write about religious things, even though they are so hard for me to write. And from the bottom of my heart I hope that my religious writings could one day serve God and help humanity understand God’s will, or at least improve the knowledge of what’s known today.
Of course we are all earthly human beings, and because we are earthly human beings there are unavoidable earthly things to be discussed, and therefore, they will have to be discussed here within these writings also; but they are going to be only those things that with God and heaven link, so, I will try hard not to write any other earthly things that is not part of religious things.
So, to whosoever will read my writings, God will help them to understand and believe in the right things, since God is greater than anybody thinks, as He is beyond any human understanding.
So, please drop every earthly thing from your mind and listen just for a moment for your own sake, because this is the good news for all human beings. You see God is offering us the most beautiful thing in the world, since God is inviting us to save ourselves forever, if we willingly try to find our own way on how to go back to Him. Therefore my dear reader and believer, it follows that if one wants to live a good earthly life, and then live the eternal heavenly life in the presence of God , one must believe in God and follow God’s ways, so one must try to do what God wants one to do all the time; which is that one must try to be in touch with God life force all the time, and if one wants to be in touch with God life force, one must be pure at heart, and even that might not be enough; but there is certainly one way, and that way is that we should ask God for forgiveness of our sins, and then we should pray God, pray and pray, because to be in touch with God life force it’s the only known and sure way.

Angels say

You ought to pray to Our Father Most High,
God's heavenly angels would tell us from the sky,
Pray and tell Father what would be your heart desires?
So Father could decide what would be your supply.

So, I've prayed to Our Father God Most High,
Father of the entire world that guides the universe,
Let there be an angel from the realm of glory,
That would guide me to tell your eternal glory.

And then one day I had a real surprise, because my prayer above was really answered:
Incredible as it may seem this event really took place and even surprised me, because while I was going to the local shops one very late afternoon just before sunset, I saw three persons that I had never seen before on the footpath which I was walking on, they were fully dressed in simple tidy everyday clothes even though it was summer, and in summer most men here ware shorts, while women ware flimsy clothes to keep cool. Looking back at this event it seems to me that these three persons were waiting for me to pass near them; and as I was approaching them two of them a man and a woman started walking towards me leaving the other man alone, so that I had to walk between them to keep going to this shop, they had to be from heaven, because what the man left alone on my left said to me no human being on earth could ever have known at that time.
One of these angels said to me with a courteous jest.
But I was terrified from this sudden happening and moved away from them in fear.
About this supernatural happening I will describe to you later on, in a more detailed way, in a special place within these writings, where it would be easier to understand why this happened to me, since in that position it will make more sense to the readers. For now I want only to say that this apparition is what really pushes me to continue to write these religious writings, since this is for me the proof of the existence of a higher intelligence in the whole universe and the proof that we are not alone.

What follows here now has been born from the need of circumstances, so, let me inform you my dear reader that for a long time I kept this supernatural happening to myself, because when these unusual things happen and you tell someone they think you are going crazy. Therefore I had to think it over many times whether I should tell anyone about this supernatural and unbelievable happening, because what I saw and heard then could only make sense to myself and nobody else, but in the end I came to the conclusion had to tell at least my most trusted friends, just to see what they thought and what their reaction would be to this happening, and find out what they would advice me to do about this personal and supernatural happening of mine.
After telling them what had happened to me, and also what I had been writing at the time, they were speechless for a little while, as they didn’t believe themselves what they had heard from me, perhaps they were thinking that I was half crazy, because what I was telling them seemed unreal and only a mad man could say such things, therefore they had to think first what to say to me, as they seemed very concerned about my mental health.
They came to me asking all sorts of questions which seemed to test my mental capacity to the limits, they were worried about me and they said so, they were worried because what I had said to them didn’t make sense; but after asking all those questions and satisfying themselves that my mental health was good they consulted again.
After consulting among themselves for a while they came back to me and said;
If you really believe in what you have seen and heard to be true, and you have not dreamed it or invented it, but really it has happened to you, then, we believe you no more questions about that.
Now, from what you have said this question arises; what are we supposed to do about this supernatural happening of yours? There is no real clear answer to this question, perhaps one could say that, you would be bound to do something about it, and indeed it would be your duty as a good citizen to let the world know about this supernatural unbelievable happening; you see these things may have happened to you for a reason.
While we are saying this to you and encourage you to do something about it, we are also a bit worried whether it is the only way to go, so it is up to you.

I said to them, although I feel it within myself that I have to do something, for me it would not be easy to tell the world of this happening and make the world believe that it had really happened to me, see how long it has taken me to convince all of you! I feel that the world at large may not accept my story easily ether, and beside that, I am not a good writer and what I need to tell them would be hard to explain even for a good writer.

My friends consulted among themselves for a long while, I think they were still worried about my mental health because what I had told them didn’t make completely sense to them, so, they were doing this just to keep an eye on me, and they were looking for a solution that they would be able to keep an eye on me every now and then, finally they came back to offer me this solution, and Mark one of them said to me:
Fran, (that is the name that they have always called me) we know that for you would be very hard to write all these things that we have talked about, but we believe that it would be a good thing if they are written anyhow, so that this knowledge that came to you from the other side is now lost.
Now, because you don’t seem to feel sure about yourself, we, (that is me and Gino here) are ready to help you in any way possible, as we feel within our hearts that you need some help to encourage you to write those writings and we are here to help you.
Then my lifelong friend Mark said to Gino: Would you be ready to help Fran, Gino?
And Gino said yes.
This is how I accepted to write these religious writings with the help of my friends.
So now, I am going to call on my friends to have a good talk about these writings.

Before I call this meeting with Mark and Gino, let me say a prayer of reconciliation to Our Heavenly Father, so that I would become inspired and worthy to write these religious writings, I hope to write them with the help of my friends of course.

Almighty and merciful Father, to you I turn Father-Most-High praying with all my heart, my soul and my mind earnestly; I am praying and hoping that in your mercy you would forgive me all my life sins, and that you would make me spiritually clean of any impurities that may effect my soul; so that, I would become worthy to pray and be heard and worthy in your eyes to be your humble servant.
Father, hear my prayer and bless me! Amen.


At the first meeting Mark, Gino and three other friends came as they had promised, at the beginning of this meeting we were all behaving just like children, we all wanted to push above all our own views without listening to each other, so I thought that the meeting was going to be just a waste of time. But then, my friend Mark soon became aware of my feelings and he said; Look the way we are going about is not going to get us anywhere, and since we are here to help Fran, then, let Fran be the one that talks first. After he states his views we will have plenty of time to state our own views.
So, there and then, I had to put my very mixed thoughts into words, and I didn’t even know how to start, as confusion was on my mind, not because I was really confused, but because what I wanted to say was so complex, just because what I was aiming to achieve in these future writings I had in mind was complex, but in the end I said:

My dear friends, I can feel within my heart that you are my friends indeed, because you have come forward to help me on this very difficult decision that I am facing. Now let it be understood before we start that this task of mine is not going to be easy for anyone of us to achieve, so if you still want to help me to succeed in writing my religious theory, first of all I will have to tell you why it is going to be hard.
First of all, what I have in mind to write is going to be a very controversial subject, so there will be lots of people that are not going to agree with my views and if you are my helper they are not going to like you for helping me. So you better consider that for your self is that understood?
Having warned you of what might happen to us all, now I feel free to say how I see this unusual situation and try to reason what can be done. I believe that it really takes a few very wise people to be able to begin solving this problematic situation, and whether the existing situation could and would be solved nobody knows. So this question arises; are we going to be wise enough to solve it?

So let me talk a little about Wisdom, which is something that has just come to our minds and we are going to need so much.

My views about knowledge and wisdom:
Wisdom is the mental capacity of a wise person, whom when confronted with a problem is able to solve it better then the average person.
His/her wisdom is usually an accumulated knowledge of all those events that this person has lived during his/her life; therefore this wise person is capable somehow of using this accumulated knowledge, and when a problem arises he/she would be able to solve it better than the others.
I don’t know exactly why one wise person becomes wiser than somebody else, even though they might have lived most of the same events together, so, I guess that some people are better able to assimilate their knowledge, perhaps by storing it at the highest level in their own mind and when the need arises use this accumulated knowledge.
Since wisdom (accumulated knowledge) may be stored at one level higher that just reason, it may seem and feel like a sixth sense to the wise man that has it. So, I would say that the wise man would use reasoning just to back up his wisdom.
There is also a small possibility that the wise person may be able to tune into the cosmos, which is thought that it may be able to store the entire accumulated knowledge of everything just like God, this thought of course gives rise to this question.
Is the cosmos an integral part of God of the universe? Well it may be part of God.
But here we are talking about wisdom and not God. So the definition of wisdom and where it comes from may still remain a mystery to most of us, but that does not matter because we can use wisdom our accumulated knowledge to achieve our goals. Therefore we are going to use our accumulated knowledge, which together with our logic reasoning may be able to come close to achieve our goal. And now that the time has come for us to do something about it, I see that there is a time for everything and let me state it clearly, so that we may understand better the situation.

My dear friends, let me say just a few more words about this present time: I believe and I am sure that most people would agree with me that there is a time for everything; here I mean that things may change continually and what today seems just perfect as it is, tomorrow may seem completely out of place, therefore, some adjustment would be required to make it good again.
But now let me go back to the facts that I was telling you in the beginning, because this may be why that supernatural event happened to me.
Even before the supernatural encounter that I have mentioned before took place, I was aware that the world’s religions clashed with each others in many ways, and that it was indeed time for somebody somehow to come up with some new ideas on how to fix those differences, in order to make the world a better place to live in. So, I was thinking and asking myself, what anyone could possibly do to improve this unrealistic damaging religious situation.
In order to understand the situation better and for my own good, I did some research and read a few religious books, and after thinking a lot about what I had read, by pure logic of reasoning I came to my own conclusion of the existing situation, and therefore I formed my own beliefs.
Here I want to point out to you that I have reached my own conclusion by pure logic of human reasoning, and I want also to say this, I believe that we (the human race) are now ready and able to understand our own religious situation better than before, and therefore, we are able to do some thing about it, as we are now advancing rapidly in all fields of learning, thanks to the computer and other electronic devices that bring knowledge to the people at large. So the people in general are now entering the age of knowledge and REASON, and everything that in the future will not be able to stand to our logic benevolent human REASON or reasons, which is the scrutiny of all aspect of life and beliefs will be rejected by humanity.
Now, having reached this stage of understanding, I was looking for some signs or news that humanity was doing something about it, in order to rectify this religious problem; but I was shocked to see that nobody was doing anything worthwhile which would be able to improve the situation.
So, I came to the conclusion that perhaps I should be doing something myself, and having this in mind I started to write a few articles just for myself to see if I could come up with any good ideas on how to achieve something useful, therefore I had already writing some of my own religious beliefs when that supernatural encounter happened. Perhaps it was just because I had written those religious writings that encounter happened.
You may ask why I started writing them. And I will tell you that deep within my heart my soul and my mind I was feeling that I had to do something about my religious beliefs, because in my mind eyes I felt as if I was called to write them.
Here I am not going to be able to write all the reasons why I am writing this paragraph but what I would like to say is that in a way the human race has left it become overdue, even though at the same time one may say that humanity is advanced so much and we have reached the age of reason.

My dear friends let me ask you this:
Do you think that by pulling our knowledge together and working together we would be able to improve on the present situation?
And if you think that it is worthwhile to try, how should we do it?
Now you can have your say whenever you are ready.

After a long talk considering what I had just said Gino came to me and said: We understand now why you are slow in accepting our help, but really we are so much interested in your writing project that we are ready to help you.
We have been thinking that just to make things easy for everybody involved, we have decided that I (Gino) and Mark will speak for all our friends when we think that you should know our views. So that it would be easier for you to keep records of what is being said, because if you are really to write this theory, which you have in mind, you need to keep records of everything that is being said.
Then I said: I agree with you that I have to keep records otherwise I will get lost in the jungle of all what is being said to me.

And they kept talking to me for another hour at least, and as we were talking they realized that the only way for me to achieve in my writings what I wanted to achieve was to modify existing religious beliefs, here I want to point out that I only was saying to them that they need to be modified in my writings and not changed, but they became really concerned and shocked from this necessary change, for them it seemed that perhaps I had lost my mind, because they have always believed in the way they had been brought up according to the Christian teaching; so they asked me:
Don’t you think that believing in anything else other than what is written in the Bible would be a sin? And you seem to move away from the Bible teachings?
We are a bit worried about this aspect of your beliefs, so we would like to hear how you are going to explain your beliefs in such a way that they would still be agreeable to God and the rest of the community?
I know it is not going to be easy, I said; and for this reason I am thinking hard what to say or do next.
And they kept talking and asking questions like the following.
If you have in mind to read and review the Bible, what parts of the Bible do you have in mind to review?
We believe that first of all you ought to make sure what you want to say or do, because we see it could even be a bit dangerous to do and say what you want to do and say.
Therefore, we council you to pray God for guidance and for help first of all, Mark and Gino said, because you are really going to need a lot of help and acceptance from above to succeed in your attempt about writing this theory of yours.
Then the meeting was adjourned, as we had spent too much time already on this matter, I was feeling tired and so were my friends, and everyone went to his own home to rest.
That night I started really thinking whether to pray God for help, and how I should pray God in order to be allowed by God to write my theory my own way.
Before I say and write my prayer, I want the reader to know that the prayers within this book will be prayers directed only to God, as God is the highest and most holy of all existing entities, therefore to pray to anything else will not make sense.

My prayer:
With my concerns I come to you praying Father Most High, Master of the universe and eternal life giver of all living things, I am praying thee for forgiveness of my sins and reconciliation to thy eternal life force, I am praying in the hope that my prayers would be heard and accepted and be your humble servant and serve you.
Deep in my heart there is this force that drives me to write my religious beliefs, so, I am praying you Eternal Father that you would inspire me and help me, so that I would be able to write those religious writings according to your will.
Father, hear my prayer forgive me my sins and bless me, so that I can be your humble servant and serve you by writing those religious writings. Amen.


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If you disagree with what is being said here, it would be better for everybody if you write your own views on the subject and leave my writings alone, as you may know what you do to others one day the others will do it to yourself.

Now I have to temporarily stop to write anything else, So may God bless those who are willing to follow him; And for those who don’t believe in God and want to harm those who believe let the will of God prevail, and let God deal with them in whatever ways God sees fit to deal with them.

May God bless you all



Tuesday, April 14, 2009

Religious Reconciliation Doc

Future Religious Reconciliation Doc

Future Religious Reconciliation

You are Invited to discuss!
This blog document is being created in the hope that I would be able to get enough people to be interested in helping, so that one day we would be able to find together Future Religious Reconciliation. In order to achieve that I am going to write a few blogs and post them, in the hope that soon or later somebody will read them and will comment or post back to us; our email addresses are:

This blog is open to everybody who is willing to discuss religious matters, so that we would be able one day to reach religious reconciliation.

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This blog has been created in the hope that we the people would be able to discuss our religious difference, so that one day we could be able to reach religious reconciliation.

Has we all know, past religious leaders did not try hard enough to reconcile to each others; but today it seems that the time has come when it will be necessary to overcome these differences, otherwise the people of the future in this world will not follow religions willingly.

So these questions arise? Will the future religious leaders be able to find their way for reconciliation?
And if they don’t; will religion slowly loose its importance and fade away slowly?

As we all know, nowadays there are still a few religious fighting from the extremists, which use some crocked ways of interpreting religious texts, so that they are able to turn their own believers to do abhorrent things in the name of religion.
We the people of this world need to do something about it, and everyone of us should do our best to find a way that may be able to stop all this rot.

What do you think, here is an opportunity to comment, so have your say?
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Today date is 11/11/2009
This morning I had a nice surprise, I found an important email about this blog, so I thank the sender for sending me the email. The email was talking about the Vatican chorus and the Holy Father Pope Benedict xvi musical recording and how good it would be to listen to this sweet religious music.
I have listened to the short sample and I found it is worth listening to, it is very nice. Now, because the sender has sent me also a link, I would like to pass it on to you also, so that you know where to find these recordings; the link is:

The following is a contribution from my friend as you can see

From, Frank@yahoo

Let us stop just for a moment to think about nowadays religious matters, as this is a very important part of our lives to know, and it would be great if we could find some answers to the questions raised above from Manfraco.

My own personal experience leads me to think that things are changing including religious things, perhaps slowly but they are changing, it has got to be that way, since a lot of things have changed especially the last 50 years.
When I was a teenager I remember that the Bible was called the Sacred Scripture, and it would be a sin for anyone other than the priest to handle it or read from it. Today the Bible is available to the public and also some other religious books. So, it is only a matter of time before the public at large learns what could be true and good to believe; and what doesn’t make sense and therefore one should not bother about it.

The computer is going to accelerate the changes it is obvious, it is going to be just like other great events that have happened in the past, whenever there is something that radically changes the way of thinking or doing things, great changes follow it is inevitable.

Now, let us take a look at discussion groups on the Internet:
There are perhaps hundreds if not thousands of groups; they are all discussing their own agenda, I don’t want to talk about all those groups, as here we want to talk about religious things mostly. As you all know there are some groups which talk only about religion and their own beliefs; there are groups discussing philosophy, which in a way could include religion; there are groups discussing evolution including creation versus evolution; and there is also a large group called, Atheism versus Christianity.
Of all these groups, Atheism versus Christianity is the largest group, the atheists don’t believe about God, so they might not believe in any religions and would like to see religions disappear.

The Atheists group is formed largely from well educated people, and therefore, when a discussion arises they are able to put a strong case about their non beliefs, so the followers of religious groups, which are a large part uneducated, are left in a disadvantaged position. This may give rise to the believers loosing faith and moving away from their own religions.
My views are these: As the Atheists as a whole does not see that if they destroy religions, they are going to create much bigger problems in the whole world; I have to agree with Manfraco that we need to question ourselves which side to take.

So, here I have a question to ask to anyone that reads these writings:

Should anyone of us take sides in this important debate?
And which side you think is more important for the welfare of humanity?
Let us know what you think?

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This is the continuation of the blog herewith; edited by Manfraco, this is also a reply to the post of Frank@yahoo and other matters that have come up recently:
In a post in my blog Religious Reconciliation my fried Frank@yahoo express his concerns about religious matters, he is saying in his own clear ways that he agrees with me, because his concerns are mostly like my own concerns on religious matters. So, now I feel relieved from his agreement, so, I am more willing to continue my search about my own idealistic world Religious Reconciliation and how to achieve that, no matter how long it is going to take me to get it started.
Frank@yahoo believes that religions are going to face hard times in the near future; and this is part of what he wrote in his post:
I don’t need to question myself which side to take, I know that I am a religious person and that I will follow religion, as there is a deep belief within me. I know that atheists seem to be able to win the case, if we look only at simple ways of reasoning, because what they say stands up to reason.
I believe that if all religions find a way to get together the atheists could not win the case, because their case is based mostly on the fighting that those religious extremist exercise, so we need to find a way how all existing religions could live in a peaceful way.
Since I have opened this blog, I have always thought that if I had some religious links, which express the willingness of any religious leader to find the way to religious reconciliation I would post them in my blog.
Today I have some good news about that, because I received an email with links from the Vatican, with request and permission that I could use those links in my blog.
Those links are about music from the Vatican and I am posting then hereunder, so that anybody can see and hear and enjoy what is going on. I hope they work.
Thanks to Peter Ruppert from the Vatican, here are the links including some explanations:

Music project on behalf of Geffen/Universal.
The project is called Music From The Vatican link below;

The album is entitled Alma Mater and is recorded in the honour of the Virgin Mary.
To find out more about this project immediately, please view this Youtube channel:

Feel the grandeur of god’s creation on earth; see what they do at the Vatican, feel the great love that the Virgin Mary has for us all and many other things, it is very exiting and beautiful, so it is worth to give it a go.

I have to say that what interests me most is the fact that the pope is going to meet another religious leader, and in doing so he may start the process of reconciliation.

Other links of interest you can use:
Advocata Nostra””

Magistra Nostra””

I have more links but they don't seem to work here.

May god bless you all

Signing in Manfraco

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