Sunday, June 21, 2015

Meeting with our religious friends

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Some religious leaders have meeting themselves to exchange their ideas and be able to understand each other better on religious grounds.
People sometimes have meeting to discuss various issues that is on their minds, whether these issues that they will talk about are religious or not, it all depends for what reason the meeting is being held.

Meeting with our religious friends

As we have promised at the end of our last post, we were going to meet with some of our religious friends and then we would continue to talk about what we talked about at the meeting. So, the other day the meeting that I have organized took place. So, I have met our friends and talked about the religious subjects that we have been talking about above, I have to say that on certain religious aspect they seem to go past my own ways of dealing with the situation, at least some of their speeches seemed to point that way, so, let us hear what Mark had to say first.
Mark speech in a nutshell,
If we want to find hidden meanings in the Bible and see why the Bible has been written the way it has been written, and also we understand the Bible the way we have been taught to understand it, then, we have really to start from the very beginning and use our logic reasoning minds to see if what we have been taught stands up to logic human reasoning; therefore, if and when it does stand up to our logic human reasoning as we believed it would, we have to try to understand what were the reasons, and then we can decide how to proceed.
So, let me tell you how I see these religious things: In my opinion I feel that in those times when the bible was written the way the Bible was written, it would have made sense to the believer of those times; you see people have always needed religions and to believe in a God that could be able to protect them from what they themselves would not be able to protect themselves, so, most civilizations had their own beliefs and gods that would help them somehow, and this can be seen from the various religions that exist today, if we are able to read between the lines.
Anyhow, in those times it happened that the Israelite needed a God to help them, so they looked at what their forbear already believed in and came up with this idea; they needed a God that was going to be superior to the other existing gods of those times, after all the Israelite needed this God to free them from the Egyptian, so Moses their leader provided just that God when he went on Mount Sinai and met Yahweh (God) as a burning bush, from there we know the rest of the Jews story, the story that for thousands of years has gone on and has become the largest religion in the world; this religion was started with Moses on Mount Sinai, and now, even though the old Israelite religion has changed a bit in various way depending to which religion one belongs, it has taken over most of the religious world.
Here I would like to point out that this religion has done a lot, and has guided lots of people in a meaningful way and it has lasted until today in various forms, I have said it has lasted until today because we don’t know what is going to happen in the future. Because as you all know today there are some people that do not need religions anymore, since time have changed and that feeling of danger from the unknown is not constantly present as it was in the past. So, some people like the atheists feel safe and feel that they can survive by themselves, so, they would like to see religions disappear, and who knows it might even happen in the far away future, we can never know.
Now let me say how I see religions today: Today we have to view religions in two different ways; the negative part of religion exists because some of the Muslim religions are becoming terrorists, these would be religious terrorist groups are a real threat to everybody including religions themselves, so we have to hope that somehow they will end soon, before something really bad happens on a large scale.
However, I have to say that my personal views are that most people still need religions just the way they are today, you see; we have always needed religions even if the atheists believe that we do not need them now? But, really how could we just let religions disappear? I believe that it could not and would never happen.
We need to look at today religious set up as a way of life that has been proven for centuries to work well with people; therefore people could not and would not accept any religious changes easily. If we can work out what can be done to change some religious beliefs without upsetting the whole system, then maybe we would be able to move to the next religious system, which very likely is inevitable: I am saying it is inevitable because everything changes with time and also religions will change; one has to look in the past to see that two thousand years ago people had different religions. I suppose I can say many other things about religions, but I suppose I have to let our other friends have a say if they so wish, so, that is all from me for the time being.

Our views and more speeches

When Mark stopped talking; I, Gino and another two of our friends that were interested in these religious talks said that we understood what he had said. But at the same time I and perhaps Gino thought that really there was a need to say more, in order to have some idea where we were going to go, if we wanted to find a new religious way. There and then we knew that Mark did not go far enough to say that we needed a sort of religious review. So I asked Gino to say something himself, very well knowing that sometimes Gino is very crafty in his ideas.
Now before I write down what Gino had to say, I want to inform our readers that in this religious writings, we will try to keep speakers to a minimum, so, I, Mark and Gino will usually speak for all our friends that are interested in these religious talks, I believe that it could be easier for everybody to understand what is going on.
Gino speech
I know that our friend Mark has said many wise things that make sense, but what he said stops short of giving us a solution about reviewing the Bible and any other religious books, indeed it is hard for any of us to find a solution for these religious problems, therefore I believe that a straight way cannot be found, so, we may have to find another way around that might not upset religious people and at the same time suggests something about what is happening, or what may be going to happen in the future to religions, because of these present situations about the atheists and also the extremist groups, as Mark has pointed out. So, the only thing that I can suggest is that we can indeed review the Bible interpretation, but we have to be very careful, and therefore make sure that everything is written in such a way that is all seen as a suggestion of the possible present situation. It needs to be written mostly in a conditional way with plenty of ifs and maybes, so that the readers can make their own minds up as they go along; we also need to remind the readers that what is being written are only suggestions, so only time will tell what is going to happen to religions in the future.
Well that is how I see this situation and what we might be able to do about it today; this is the main thing I wanted to say to you, now you can make up your own mind.
Gino stopped talking and we said, your idea sounds good perhaps we should indeed try to review the Bible and any other religious books soon when we meet again. After that we started to have some other friendly talks that are not important to mention here.
I believe that we have said enough in this article, so, see you in our next article about, Bible reviews are necessary, after all we also want to study all sorts of religions.
May God help us to understand this religious situation?
May God bless us all?

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