Wednesday, July 16, 2014

People religious concerns

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And this post, people religious concerns
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This sketch shows us how the main religions could be divided 

Where these main religions are today



People religious concerns
Welcome to our post, People religious concerns
May God guide and help me to say the right things in these religious writings?
We the religious people who believe in God and religions should be really concerned about what is happening in the religious world of today, these concerns that we are talking about here are real, today we know a lot more that we used to know before, because of the simple facts that we can easily follow what is happening in the world today through the news, therefore we should have been able to come up with a solution to the religious problems that we see around us today, but this does not seem to happen and if it is happening at all, it is slow and in a very small way.
We just have to look at the news and we will see that there are still many religious problems, perhaps they are hiding under another form, they are not that extreme like the inquisition, when religions were out of control and they did a lot harm to people and also to themselves, but today some harmful practices are still there, we have to admit that today religions seem to be arguing with each other, perhaps to a lesser degree than when they used to hate each other say more than fifty years ago, but they still keep going on and don’t trust each other much, when they should be trying to live in peace with each other; so the question is what we need to do to make religions friendlier with each other? If we think about it religions must first of all fulfil the role of being merciful and friendly, because if they cannot do that then they become useless, so it is time that religious leader work on this issue, in the hope that one day they can reach some sort of agreement and be completely tolerant to each other. We would like to suggest that all religions should be looking for a starting point, where all religions have the same thing in common.
We the people of this world should be concerned, because the way religious people behave sometimes is shocking, how can it be explained that somebody kills somebody else in the name of God and religions, how can we explain that in the Roman Catholic Church the priests are supposed to be pure as a virgin, but they are not and then not only we find that they might have a sexual partner and worst of all we find that they are paedophiles, which is the lowest of the sexual crimes, and many other things that don’t add up in religions the way they should?
All or part of these happenings might be due to the fact that there are many religions in this world, their beliefs are not the same and some of them hate each other, they also promises many things but deliver very little and if there is anything to be delivered is going to happen after one dies, which is going to be impossible to prove even if we want to believe and try.
If you want to see part of what we are saying, you just look at the sketch on this page and you will see what we mean when we say that there are many religions. So, we should be concerned about the many existing religions and what needs to be done, I am personally concerned because even though I know that mankind needs to believe in God and religions; it still concerns me if I want to start talking against the present religious trend in case I get it wrong, but then again I am thinking that we have to make a start sometimes, so I am trying to review mentally what we already know, and then try to fit all religions in a way that could make them friendlier and therefore be able to serve humanity better.
For instance we know that man needs God and perhaps God needs man also, we know that there are already all these existing religious beliefs, which in a way fulfil most of those needs which mankind really needs; but for me those existing religious beliefs are not enough and they need to be more consistent with each other, because as we have said there are many things that don’t work the way they should, so I believe that we need to try to upgrade religions in a way that they will still be accepted from most believers and at the same time, they would become more friendly with each others, and at the same time might help to control better the priests that are paedophile, but all this is not going to be easy so it concerns me even how to start, but we need to start somehow.
Anyhow in this article, because we may upset some of our readers, before we do anything like that we better say something to those believers that could become worried, since they believe in religions the old ways. So let us write this article

For our readers' peace of mind

To anyone who is a believer and believes in God and other religious beliefs, please read our Prayers for Reconciliation writings and Reconciliation of the Universe fully before you pass judgement and quit reading; you see Prayers for Reconciliation is only an idealistic theory, which through discussions with other fellow believer (and perhaps non-believers) is trying to find a way on how to link all existing religions together, in the hope that they would not be able to fight each other any longer in the future; Reconciliation of the Universe is the theory that might be able to achieve just that.
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ACHIEVE WITH THESE RELIGIOUS WRITINGS
We are going to set the stage for the entire world to see,
And when you read these pages you might have to agree,
That this could be the golden door of golden opportunities,
That God would be willing to give to us and to all humanity.
Therefore, I am praying God to help and guide me.

So here, I pray God to help me,
My Lord God, I pray you to guide and help me, since I am really concerned about what I am going to write here, I am concerned in case I make mistakes, but at the same time I know that something needs to be done, so I pray you Father to help me,
Father, hear my prayer, amen.
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This is our angles poem of Prayers for reconciliation
You angels of the realm of glory
You tell us about the eternal story
You tell us about the creator's glory 
You tell us the wonders of God's creation 


We are studying religions

You see, what we are doing here is a sort of study of religions and what can be done about them to make them work the way they should. For this reason I am praying God to guide me, because, just by thinking about what we would like to write in these religious writings to achieve what we would like to achieve I feel very concerned, because in order to say and achieve what we want to say and achieve, we have to break free from some very old religious traditions, which for centuries and even thousands of years have been observed very closely from most religious leaders and believers. So, for me/us to come out suddenly and break free from the old religious traditions would be shocking to everybody that knows these religious things to say the least. Therefore, for this very reason I am also concerned that the whole world may hate me for writing what I am writing and what I am going to write next, and for this same reason they may not accept these new religious views easily, until they will realize that in the future they have to change and there might be no other way out.
Therefore, first and foremost we have to be strong in our own beliefs if we have to write them, and we have to believe that it is God’s will that we have to write these religious writings, since we feel that God has sown in us this seed of wanting to write them. So, I pray God to help me and guide me in this hard task.
In order to give an explanation to the present state of religious things, I am inclined to believe that the reasons for the present religious traditions for being as they are and for being left unchanged for so long has been because people have always had a great fear to change them. Of course without a doubt there have been good reasons not to change them until now, and there have been also many reasons of convenience not to change them until nowadays.
But as we all know, there is a right time and a wrong time for doing anything, and even though in the past it would have been right not to change any of these religious traditions, today it would be wrong not to modify and change or upgrade religions at all, not only to solve the problems that we have mentioned above, but also for other reasons that even today might not be so obvious.
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The reasons for changes
Let us try to review and explain the reasons for these changes
Because today old religious traditions start looking a bit strange, because today we start viewing everything different in our mind eyes, the reason why we have this different view it is because we perceive things in a different way, and the reason for perceiving things in a different way it is because in today’s world things are changing very rapidly compared to the old times, and this is also changing our way of thinking and perceiving things.
In the past people would go to church on Sunday and listen to the sermon being preached, and then we would go home and thing about it for a while, so we really believed what was being preached to us, as there was no other source for religious knowledge to compare to; but today it is different, all sorts of news are readily available, we are able to learn and compare many things, so our views may change because of what we have learned. All these changes that are taking place now are going to change even faster in the future, one of the reasons for these changes happening faster than usual has been brought about by the computer; and we know that the computer is here to stay; therefore changes may happen even faster in the future.
Therefore, if we think about it and make use of our intelligent minds to reflect about what’s really happening now, we will begin to understand that with the passing of time everything will change even those things that for a very long time we believed could never change and would never change. Therefore today we find ourselves in a position that needs adjustment for the future and this includes also existing religious beliefs and religious orders:
So, in order to make the right adjustments everything should be reviewed and adjusted to suit the present time and also the future times; otherwise soon or later the existing old religious ways would not make any real sense to the present world generations and even less sense to the future generations. Now, if religion does not make good sense to the believers they would not believe in religion any longer, and therefore there is a good chance that they could even abandon religions altogether.
Here again it is the availability of knowledge from many sources and above all from the computer that brings these changes about. In order to explain this situation better let us just imagine how everything was done in the past. You see, in the past not many people could even read, and for those that were able to read it was a good chance that they never had a bible that they could read, so everything was left to the priests that had to follow their own ways of the church, that is the reason why nothing has happened for centuries.
Today everything is very different and most people can read and write, they can also use the computer to search for anything that they would like to know, so knowledge has changed in favour of the simple people, because now just about anybody can learn how things really are, instead of the few people that in order to control the people, they would go along and use the same ways that their forefathers used to control the people. I hope you see what we mean here. For these reasons we believe that in the future religions are going to be modified, so let us talk about these future religions and how they could be modified and why.

Future religions

Looking for the future of religions; having said and reviewed what we have said above, we have reasons to believe that the time is coming very rapidly when existing religious beliefs cannot stay any longer as they are now, and those persons like me who believe in God and religion have got to do something about it, like putting a new religious theory in place to ensure that religious beliefs last forever if it is possible, as we said in our previous articles Religions are spiritual eternal beliefs, we know that man needs God, and also God is hope for those that need hope most, therefore religions are needed and are here to stay.
These actions that we may have to take now are becoming necessary in order to secure the future for religions, even if we find it hard to modify religions now. We need to do this soon enough, because human evolution has reached a very advanced stage, and I dare say that humanity these days start to question the present religious system very much, because nowadays we are living in the age of reason, where the human mind helped by the computer perceives and understand lots more things than we used to understand in the past, and through these extra understanding that we have gained, we often like to believe that our minds can guide us to overcome anything in our way with or without God’s help.
Then as we have said we are also living in the age of the computer, which enable us to learn things a lot faster than ever before. Because of this computer devise some of the people on earth are becoming very learned and intellectually advance faster than ever before, and through this acquired knowledge, they sometimes ask themselves what’s the use of religion nowadays, because they are able to perceive that these existing religious traditions don’t fit very well the needs of the people in nowadays world; therefore, it might happen that a leading group of people may be formed and part of this leading group of people are not fast religious believers, then they may have a point to say that religious traditions have become useless beliefs. You see, this is one of the reasons why there are atheists groups today.
So, in order to avoid this happening to religions and ruin ourselves in the eyes of God, we who believe in God and religion as it is now and as it has been for a very long time, and perhaps from the beginning of times, today we know that we need to do something about it, because it is obvious that we need to modify religions and make religions fit the needs of this present generation and also the future generations, as far as we can see.
Therefore, here we are studying and trying to find a way to achieve these religious modifications without upsetting anybody; we need to do this step by step and link everything together, because only if we are able to link all existing religions together, we will be able to save religions mostly the way they are today.
May God help us to achieve the best outcome?
May God bless us all?
TO BE CONTINUED: Next time with, Let us talk about more religious reviews.

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Wednesday, July 2, 2014

Religious spiritual beliefs

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Religions are spiritual beliefs


Religious spiritual beliefs

May God guide and help me to say the right religious things in these religious writings?

When we talk about religions, we have to accept that religious beliefs are spiritual and eternal, since there is proof that they have been here all the time, and so is God and the universe, this belief seems to be written deep within our soul, therefore, it would be unwise to say that there is no God, because even if there is no God like a real person, then God would exist just the same, as God could or would be the existing life and you and me are just a very tiny part of God life force of the universe. Or better still we should see God as a spiritual being, with all his power in the Holy Spirit, because that is what God can really be and this spiritual being gives life to every living thing. You see we need God to explain our life and this is as close as we can get for the time being.
You see we need God and this is one of the reasons that we are trying to explain why we believers should always believe that there is a God, and I suppose that there should be a god for the atheists as well, if the atheist look for God in their own ways, in other words whatever force energies they believe has made life possible on earth, that same force energy could be called God. Now, as you know we have already talked about it, that there could be a god for the atheists that even the atheists might accept; now we would like to talk a bit more about this god just to make sure that we have said enough, in order to understand this religious situation.
Here I need to say that my religious friends and I have reflected on this religious situation for a while together, and we have come to the conclusion that there is only one God throughout the universe. What and how this God would be is hard to explain in a few words right now, as we do not have a very firm idea, but we have to assume that in a certain way God and Mother Nature are the Creators of life in the universe, and God is master of the whole universe, and therefore He is also the eternal positive and active life-force that makes life possible on earth and the universe and keeps the entire universe alive, and he guides the whole universe with his greater wisdom. We have described God as the positive life force, because we believe that the positive life force is where all life begins and the negative life force is where all life ends. We know that this sound only as a descriptive way, but this is all we can say for the time being, because all this will be explained when we write our third part called, Reconciliation of the Universe.
Anyhow, I believe in this God-Most-High who is the eternal unseen life-force that guides the whole universe, even though I could not see Him. And I believe also that the whole universe is full of many seen and unseen active and alive spiritual things, and even though I cannot see these unseen active alive things I know that they are there and they are working together in a parallel way with the seen alive beings or things; therefore, they are helping each other in the never ending life cycle of the whole universe.
I believe that since God-Most-High is the active life-force of all living beings in the universe, from the largest to the smallest living being or thing; it follows that all the life-force of living beings or things to God they shall return when they die.
Therefore, I believe that through God-Most-High-life-force every living creature receives their gift of life when they are born, and at the end of their lives, their life-force will return to God-Most-High-life-force, and there in the spiritual form they will stay waiting for next round, if and when there is a next round, you see, we are not certain about this part.
In these religious spiritual eternal beliefs, we have good reasons to believe that the following could or indeed would be true, because it is believed that within this parallel spiritual world the highest order of all living beings that return to God’s life-force, may one day, be judged according to their lives’ deeds that is if and when there is a real judgment day. To understand better what we believe and mean about judgment and salvation you need to read that part of our religious writings called ‘Reconciliation of the Universe’ when we write and publish it later on.
Now, this religious article here is still part of, Prayers for reconciliation writings and we would like to continue to discuss here that religions are believed to be spiritual eternal beliefs; we know that Religions are spiritual eternal beliefs, since most people have believed about God and religions all the time.
There is also something else to say; because I feel within my heart that we may have to continue to discuss about our last article; there is a god for atheist or God of the atheists, (this is the link if you want to check it out, God and the atheists, 15 we want to do this, just because we want to be sure that we had said enough about god for the atheists subject. Now that I have said that we can continue to talk about our article here, Religions are spiritual beliefs, as this is part of our religious writings of, Prayers for Reconciliation religious writings, but at the same time I believe that I need to say something for our reader’s peace of mind

For our readers' peace of mind

Now before we continue to write anything of importance about spirituality, let me explain to our religious readers that they don't need to worry at all about what they read in these religious writings, as it will be explained soon here-under.
To anyone who is a believer and believes in God and other religious beliefs, please read our Prayers for Reconciliation writings and Reconciliation of the Universe fully before you pass judgment and quit reading; you see Prayers for Reconciliation is only an idealistic theory, which through discussions with other fellow believer (and perhaps non-believers) is trying to find a way on how to link all existing religions together, in the hope that they do not fight each other’s any more, as they have done in the past and sometimes even today; Reconciliation of the Universe is the theory that might be able to achieve that.
In this hub we would like to talk about, Religions are spiritual beliefs, What we would like to do or achieve and, Praying God for help and guidance.
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What we would like to achieve
WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ACHIEVE WITH THESE RELIGIOUS WRITINGS
We are going to set the stage for the entire world to see,
And when you read these pages you might have to agree,
That this could be the golden door of golden opportunities,
That God would be willing to give to us and to all humanity.
Therefore, I am praying God to help and guide me.
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There are good reasons to believe that a better outcome can be achieved by studying religions and the present religious situation; and if there are any doubts in our minds about what we are doing, we should pray God to help us and thus I am praying.

Praying God for help and guidance

Here I am going to pray God for help and guidance.
Now, since I believe that there is this entity called God and that there is only one God throughout the whole universe, and this God that we are talking about here is the centre of all these life energies that could or would be all the life energies in the entire universe that make life possible in the universe, while this God may or may not be different from the God in the Bible depending on how we understand the Bible, or as we have been taught to understand the Bible. Whichever way we might see our God it does not matter a great deal, because we are still believing and talking about God.
Therefore here, because we want to talk about our God we need to pray to this God of the universe in the hope that he will help us, we want to pray also to be sure that we are playing it safe and not upsetting any spiritual eternal heavenly force in anyways, so let us pray God for help, guidance and acceptance.
MY PRAYER
Our Father in heaven, to you I turn God Most High, and I start to pray with all my heart, my soul and my mind. In the name of The-Father The-Son and The-Holy Spirit I am praying, hoping that the ever present guiding force of the Holy Spirit on earth would guide and help me; So that, I would be able to write these religious writing as humanly as possible according to your will. Father, hear my prayer and guide me! Amen.
Now that I have said this prayer to God for help and guidance, I may have to assume that God has heard my prayer and makes me think the right things that I need to write. Therefore I have to assume that the first thing that comes into my mind is what I need to say, and this is what comes to my mind, it is that I have to try to find a way, on how we could start something that enables all the world religions to live in peace with each other’s first of all; then there is a second task which is that not only religions should try to live in peace with each others; but they have also to make sure that those atheists unbelievers do not win their ways and one day could destroy religions so to speak, so we have to be careful about these atheists also, because man needs God.
Now, there are reasons to believe that religious spiritual beliefs are eternal and most people have always believed in God one way or another; for these reasons religious believers need to come up with new theories to prove that there is a god of the universe, in order to defeat the atheists, even if this god is not going to be exactly the way most of us believe he is now; here I would like to add that in my lifetime I have come across some people that believe that God is just a spiritual thing, or God might be just anything, or perhaps God might even be the cosmos of the universe. Anyhow, I am trying here to put forward my own theory of God of the universe, in the hope to get people interested in having their say on religious matters, So I invite anyone who is a believer and able to write to come up with their own religious theory. Therefore, if my religious description does not agree with their beliefs, let us hope that those people are willing to say something that could help to resolve these religious problems, because I would like to hear what they have to say, in the hope of learning something new.
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Other religious beliefs

Most of us believe that God our father is the Creator of everything and drives the whole universe as He likes, since any existing things in the whole universe belongs to Him, that is everything at all: Like the earth and everything on it; like the growing vegetation on land and in the sea; like all sorts of fishes and animals, and all mankind irrespective to where a person is born and to which race that person belongs; and He is also the master of the stars and all other celestial planets, and all celestial beings material or spiritual in the whole universe.
We believe that God is our spiritual heavenly father and to Him we should turn for help when we need any help at all, this makes sense, because we have to believe that since any good father loves to help his own children; it should follows that God who is the best father of them all should like to help us more than anyone of us thinks possible, and that would happen only if we turn to God our Father and praying ask for his help; let us not forget that! Because that is the only way that God can help us, it is when we try to reach him, as at that point of time a link is established between us and God, if we don’t establish this link God could or would not help us.
Therefore during our lives, let us always pray God our Father whenever we feel threatened helpless or concerned about ourselves and also for the rest of the world, and also when we need his guidance or help, in order to do the right things and live according to God’s will.
So, I may as well start praying God hoping that God would help me overcome my concerns!
Now, let me explain myself where and as I stand in relation to these religious writings and my own background; now, just because I am a Roman Catholic born I have been taught to pray like one, and therefore, I have only been able to modify my ways of praying to a certain extend through my own beliefs. So, today I am praying to the living God who is the active God-Life-Force of the whole universe thus:
THIS IS MY PRAYER.
In the name of the Father the Son and the Holy-Spirit, I am praying and humbly asking our Father God-Most-High for help. I am praying because I feel from within my heart that I have been called to write these religious beliefs, and that I should write them in order to fulfil what I have been called to do, and by doing so I may be able to help humanity understand these religious beliefs. So, Father if it is your will and you would want me to write them; then you would have to help me, because I would not be able to write them without your help.
So, first of all I pray you Father to let your guiding force guide me to write the right things in these religious writings, and then, because I am concerned about writing them for my own safety, help me overcome my concerns and fears about writing them.
Father, hear my prayer and help me to write them, and also help me to overcome my concerns and fears! Amen.
May God help me and us all to understand his will?
Spiritual beliefs ARE TO BE CONTINUED: Next time with; Religious concerns and struggles. See you soon.
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Sunday, June 8, 2014

God for the atheists

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 The entire universe could be said to be the cosmos, therefore wherever we look we see the cosmos, so God can be part of the cosmos or the cosmos itself depending on our own personal views.



Baruch Spinoza Duch philosopher
1632-1677 he has written about God and sometimes he comes close to say that perhaps we live within God, so God might be different to the ways some religions want us to believe.










God for the atheists
Here we are going to write about a god that even the atheists might accept; but before I come to that, we need to say that there already exist, in our hub pages another description of what God could be like in hub 3, Man needs God, (this is the link if you want to check it out, Man needs God, 3 ). And now let us try to explain how we would like to see God of the future that even the atheists might accept; you may ask, what or who is this god that the atheists might accept? So let us try to answer this question of;
What or who is God that even the atheists might accept?
Now, before we start to talk about what or who is God that even the atheists might accept, we would like to point out that we have already said and written a previous article, where we believe that we have proved that God exists, (this is the link if you want to check it out: God exists, 8) Having said that now we can go back to talk about a god for the atheists.
At the end of our previous article, we were saying that we would be looking for ways of how God could be described, so that the atheists could perhaps accept the existence of God more willingly so to speak; we also mentioned that there was this philosopher called Baruch Spinoza who did not believe that God was the ways religious leader want us to believe; because Baruch Spinoza was more inclined to believe that God was something other than a person, in fact he carefully puts forward the idea that God is in everything and that we live within God, he thought that God was pandemic therefore every living thing is part of God; Baruch Spinoza’s God may also be like Mother Nature. Having said that, one could consider that, if we follow these lines of reasoning we may indeed describe a god that even the atheists might accept.
So let us now try to describe what and how God could or would be described in the future, so that most if not all of us would accept, and even the atheists could or would accept this new described God; therefore, believe it or not there might indeed be God even for the atheists.
Let us now try to describe this God, you see, if we care to put every religious beliefs together we may come to the conclusion that indeed there is or might be God, and God may well be all living things that exist today, see our hub God exists, but let us describe this god anyhow.
Just to start with, we may assume that God is all the life energies that exist in the universe, which means that every living thing is part of God, therefore no living thing can exist without God-life-force-energies, and therefore just to give a name to these life energies, we may have to call these life energies God-Most-High and this God-Most-High is the most important part of the life forces of the universe, but as we know we cannot see God or any of these life forces of the universe; so, we have to use our own imagination to describe how all this could be like, and when I use my imagination, it suggests that throughout the cosmos of the whole universe, God-life-force gives life to every living thing, communicate in his own ways with every living thing and also is able to record everything that happens and what the living do.
Just let us explain the cosmos as my religious friends and I understand it, the cosmos has those entire requisite to communicate with everything, therefore the cosmos may as well have the capacity to keep all past records, and also the present and future records of anything that happens. You see, if we are able to keep records in our own ways, it seems obvious that in nature there must be a way to keep records, since we cannot create anything that does not and could not exist, therefore, we may have to accept that we can only discover the ways of nature how to keep records, so, we believe that there must be a natural way to keep records and the cosmos is one of them and it is also the mediums that is able to pass this knowledge on to whoever is able to read this stored knowledge.
Now, let us go back to the most important part of these religious writings, which is to describe God that even the atheist might accept, we need to say here that because we have already described this elsewhere in these religious writings we will try to be brief because if you would like to see a full description you can go to our blog, http://manneedsgod.blogspot.com or hub, Man needs God, Man needs God, 3 anyhow hereunder is how we would describe God:
We believe that there is only one God throughout the universe, and this God is the active life-force energies of the entire universe; therefore, every living thing is part of this God- life-force and nothing living can exist without God, because God is life itself. This is the briefest way that we can think of about how to describe e God for everybody including the atheists.
Dear readers please note that I had once a longer description of this God of the universe, but I had to remove it from Hub Pages because of duplicate content. If you want to read it now it is in the pages at this blog address: http://manneedsgod.blogspot.com and then click on the link Hub pages duplicate content.
I believe that I have said enough in this article, so see you next time.
May God guide and help us understand these religious things?

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Friday, May 16, 2014

About God and the atheists

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This is how the painter Michelangelo painted God face, he looks a very firm and just man.














Our Lord Jesus Christ is said to be the son of God and therefore also God, but this set up does not agree with the atheists, so we need to look for who or what might be acceptable as God for them.







 

About God and the atheists

 Welcome to our post about God and the atheists. May God help and guide me to write the right religious things in this chapter, being also part of Prayers for Reconciliation religious writings.
As we all know the atheists do not believe in God, so, God and the atheists are worlds apart, but most of us believe that we need God and religions, so we cannot follow the atheist ways since we believe that we need God and we believe in God, for this reason we will be trying to find a way how to modify religions, so that we may continue to have religions and God just the way it is today; at the same times we are looking for the existence of a god that even the atheists might have to accept, so let us try our best to achieve that.
As we have already said in our other posts, these religious writings are being written in good faith for the future benefit of mankind. In these writings we are in search of ourselves in a religious way, so, while we are discussing about God and the atheists in these hubs, we will also be looking for religious options that could improve links between existing religions, this might alarm some of our religious readers, so, we have written an explanation here under, for our readers’ peace of mind.
Written for our readers’ peace of mind
To anyone who is a believer and believes in God and other religious beliefs, we say, please read our Prayers for Reconciliation writings fully before you pass judgement and quit reading; you see Prayers for Reconciliation is only an idealistic theory, which through discussions with other fellow believer (and perhaps non-believers) is trying to find a way on how to link all existing religions together; therefore our religious beliefs and the existing religions will remain just the way they are today. So, don’t you worry if our religious writings could sometime sound different from the ways that we usually hear religions being preached, Because there is no need to worry about it, as it will all be explained as you read all our religious writings, and then, you can judge for yourself at the end of our religious writings of Prayers for reconciliation and Reconciliation of the Universe?
In our last posts we have talked about; Prayers and religious discussions. In this post we will be writing about: God and the atheists or God for the atheist.
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Now that we have written what our intentions are, let us say a prayer to our Father God Most High, in the hope that God would hear my prayer and helps me say the right religious things, in these religious writings of, God and the atheist.
My prayer to God Most High
Almighty Father I pray you with all my heart, my soul and my mind to guard and protect me from all dangers and the forces of evil and let me be a very wise man, so that I would be able to live the rest of my life according to your will, and write these religious writings as humanly as possible according to your will and in such a way that humanity may accept them and use them one day for the future benefit of mankind. Father, hear my prayer amen.
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We believe that there might be a god even for the atheists
This article is about the atheists and their beliefs in the non existence of God. This atheist attitude is already causing some concerns between Christian believers and atheists, and it might cause one day more unforeseen hardship to the people that believe in Christianity and God, because they might feel unwelcomed from the atheists, just as much as the atheist could feel unwelcome from the religious believers, if and when they go to a place where everybody frequents. For these reasons it might be good if there is a way that one day we might be able to show the atheists that there might be a god even for them, of course this god has got to be close enough to the atheists own beliefs.
Therefore, in this article we are going to put forward a new theory that there could even be a God for the atheists, that the atheists might believe in, if we fail to do that and we are not able to convince the atheists about this possible god existence that they could believe in, there might be many unseen religious problems in the future.
For these reasons that we have described above, all religious believers need to be ready for these events that might happen soon or later if atheist beliefs cannot be changed, because there will be a day when the atheist might win their way so to speak, that day will be a hard day for the believers. So, if and when the atheist win their ways and God as we know it now might not exist anymore, we should still try to find our way back to God, because mankind needs God, so, we should explain our religious position to the atheist in such a way that even the atheists would be convinced that indeed there might be a God, or perhaps that we really need a god, even if this new found or made up God or modified God is a bit different to the God we know now, in the hope that the atheists might even become believers themselves of the new modified or made up God.
After all as we have said already, Man needs God, and perhaps God needs man, otherwise what does a god mean if there are no followers? And also, what will those people that rely on religions for guidance do if there is no God and religious guidance?
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Talking about the atheists god

Believe it or not, there might even be a god for the atheists
So, let us talk about this possible god or impossible atheists’ god
Now this question arises, what sort of god could or should be like for the atheists to believe in the existence of God? Would it be possible that they might accept a god, if this God is simply the life energies of the universe, just because the life energies of the universe cannot be denied?
Now, dear readers, allow us to reflect a bit on what we have already said in last article called, Prayers and religious discussions, (this is the link if you want to check it out: Prayers and religious discussions, 14 It seems to me that there were two main issues one of which was/is that, religions and God is hope for those who need hope most, the other most important issue we discussed there was about the atheists.
As we all know the atheists are people that don’t believe in any sort of God or religions, and they believe also that the world could be better off if there are no religions at all. Personally we don’t agree with their ways of thinking, therefore we have to say that we could not believe anything they might say ether, because we have reasons to believe that mankind needs God and religions, it has been so since the beginning of the known world, so let us describe briefly how we see the history of religions hereunder.
You see, when we look at the history of religions, we cannot avoid noticing that there have been many religions in the past, which have lasted for a while, then something changed and also religions changed every now and then, so, what was believed for a short while or perhaps a long time slowly died away and was replaced from another form of religion. Perhaps not completely new but at least modified; so religious beliefs may be able to modify with time without any harm to the religions themselves. Therefore, if one believes that history usually repeats itself, if we allow enough time for it to happen, then there would be no harm in changing some religious beliefs, as we have tried to explain herewith.
Of course, now these religious questions arise; Are we at that stage when religion needs to change? What should we do if they need changing now? It might also happen that religions are slowly changing by themselves and there is nothing that we can do to stop that, but one day we may have to accept this new religious way that they have become; for this reason should we ask how and why they are changing?
Of course we know that there are a few causes that may changes religious beliefs, and one of these causes is that today everything is changing very fast, and changes bring in other changes as we all know, so religions may be changing as well.
What is the main cause one may ask?
We have reasons to believe that today the computer brings knowledge to all people very fast, this new knowledge makes people ask questions, because they want to check out for themselves everything; so, soon or later they will not be satisfied about their own religious beliefs, because they can see some aspect of religion that does not make sense, and therefore, they will start abandoning the existing religions, unless these existing religions change in a way that satisfies the people beliefs and they are according to the modern values that people attach to them.
Now since religious change is going to happen soon or later and we believe that one day it will be inevitable, we need to think what sort of ‘God’ people would accept in the future.
Therefore, hereunder is a description of God of the future, which the atheist people might even accept, as it is a lot closer to their way of thinking.
Anyhow this post is becoming too long, so we will talk about this God for the atheists in our next post. See you soon.
May God bless us all?

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Thursday, May 1, 2014

Gino's comments

WELCOME TO OUR RELIGIOUS RECONCILIATION DOC; YOU ARE INVITED TO BROWSE AND TO TAKE PART IF YOU WANT. IF YOU FIND SOMETHING PERSONALLY INTERESTING LET US KNOW. just a short comment will do if you do not have much time.
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Welcome to our blog, Religious Reconciliation Doc
and this post, Gino's comments
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Now this picture represents God as a man. God here seems so powerful, is it just our imagination that we see God thus?








These are Gino's comments
Dear readers to understand this post you need to read our previous post of, Religious discussions, so that you can follow what Gino is saying or in a way commenting on our previous speech and this is what Gino is saying:
Let me talk about Mark speech first: I have to say that Mark and I agree on most of these religious issues, so there is no point in repeating them, I only would like to say a bit more about the last group of people who we call the atheists, as they need to be noted about their ways of thinking and speeches, I would say that any religious believer should avoid talking to any of them about religious matters, because soon or later those atheists are inclined to ridicule the religious beliefs of the believers, and because, they are usually good intelligent people, it is hard for any average religious people to defend themselves from this group.
They attack believers usually by asking proof of the existence of God or any religious matter, so Mark is right when he calls them the danger group of religious beliefs. We really need to think hard how to defend ourselves from this group, if we want to save religions and keep religions as close as they are today. Let me show you a few examples about what they usually talk about to get the believers off guard.
You believers say that God is Omnipotent, now if God is omnipotent then god should be capable to do anything at all no matter how difficult the task is.
Now, there are many things in the world that need to be fixed, why your god does not fix them? For these reasons we say that your God most likely does not exist at all; and/or he exists He is definitely not omnipotent, or he is not willing to fix anything, so your god is not your fatherly benevolent god that you say he is. Therefore your religious beliefs are flawed and you would be better off if you don’t believe in your God.
We say and believe that we are right to assume that there is no God and religions are there only to control people, now since religions fight with each others, it would have been better if religions did not exist at all. Do you see what we atheist mean?
This sort of reasoning goes on with many gods attributes and they challenge the believers to give proof of the existence of God and its attributes. So it is hard for any believers to give proof of God and its attributes. How can any believers give proof about God?
And god omnipotence, omniscience, omnipresence and many other God attributes?
This is how the atheists attack any believers with this sort of reasoning; they do that because for the atheists God and religion would be better if they did not exist. What can be done to change their attitude is hard to say. But then if nothing is done it can result in more harm to the community, because they will slowly make the believer deny their God.
Now, let me see what I can say about what you just said Frank, I can see that you are trying to find a possible solution, but what sort of solution you do not know yet, it is just as I was saying it is hard to know what can be done; I have to say that there are times when I think that today’s religions are missing the point, they don’t know how to keep the people believing what they have always believed; because times are changing, but religions are not changing at all, as they fail to see the need to change.
Therefore I understand you Frank when you say that something needs to be done, and I say also that perhaps it is time to do something about it and find a way around it. Looking at what has been said, I see something that perhaps can be done, so, may I suggest that we start to read the Bible bit by bit and comment among ourselves how many interpretation can we give to that part of the Bible, it might turn out that there are interpretation that can apply to these modern time.
I hope I have explained myself clear enough in this difficult task.
Your speech is clear enough for me I said; then I turned to Mark and asked: what do you think of Gino speech mark? His speech is very clear for me too; in fact it is just about what I would have liked to say myself. But now, where do we go from here I don’t Know?
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I suppose I need to say something myself now about what we have talked about; what I see here is the need to review what is written in the Bible, and also think hard if what is written in the Bible was write at the time it was written, but today it may not apply and therefore we may need to adjust things, as the needs of the day suggest.
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Frank's comment

FRANK THE WRITER COMMENT
Mark and Gino, now that we have seen and talked about in these religious discussions, and what you have found for yourself while talking to people on these religious subject, what religious people think and what atheist think, I hope that you may have changed your previous opinion, and therefore, now you might be thinking more like me; which is that something needs to be done to help religions find a way of peaceful existence, if peaceful existence can ever be found.
We have to agree that, to achieve complete peaceful existence is not easy the way religions are today, therefore, I believe and I hope that you agree with me that religions need to be reviewed and brought in line with the present times. I have to say that at this present time nobody wants to listen to our religious approach, so there is not much that one can do presently; but one can always start thinking about the possibilities, if one day something can be done to solve this religious problem for good.
I believe that, the only way that this can be achieved is to come up with a theory, which allows the existence of all religions as they are today; but at the same time finds a way and be able to shows it clearly to the people that all religions are one link of the same chain. I know this is not as simple as it sounds, but if we keep looking we will find the way to show people that we are looking for. Under here might be one of them.


This is the portrait of  the philosopher Baruch Spinoza who thought that God could be different to what the people of his time thought God was like, but he could not say much, because he could upset the powerful church.









Now let me say this: while searching the Internet, I have found that there was a philosopher called, Baruch Spinoza, 1632-1677 who believed that it is more likely that God may not be just the way that religions want you to believe nowadays; but it could be that God was more like Mother Nature therefore it is more likely that we all are part of God and God is everything or at least every living thing in existence.
So, let us see what this sort of reasoning takes us; Let us assume that God could not be exactly how we have been thought god is like today; then it may well be that God is more like what Spinoza believed god was like, this may very well be the link that we need to find in order to link all existing religions together.
Therefore, if we think a bit like Spinoza and add to the knowledge which we have today, we might be able to describe a god which could co-exist with all religions together.
So, let us put out minds together and see if we can describe this God for all; which we could call God-Most-High. Mark and Gino, what do you think of my idea?
My friends Mark and Gino said; well, it seems a bit strange to us, but your idea is an idea and it might even work, so, let us try to make a list of how this god-most-high could be; just to see if we are able to find a way to Spinoza thinking about, what is God?
Very well I said; you see, a while ago I was thinking this same thing, so I have already written something about, what is God? So, I am going to show you soon what I wrote:
I think we have said enough in this post, but we will continue with these same religious discussions in next post, see you there.
May God help us find the right religious way? For this reason I will be praying God to help me with this prayer:
Almighty Father, I am praying you with all my heart, my soul and my mind hoping that in your mercy you would guide and help me, Father hear my prayer, amen. 

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Religious Reconciliation Doc
Gino's comments 
IS TO BE CONTINUED;
Next time with; another religious discussion
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